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I am a MESS, and a total N00b, so bear with me, and speak in Digestible bites, please ;)

I need to raise my Test levels (should that be done before I do anything else - like with some kind of PCT to stabilize me before I do anything that might drop my levels even further?) pretty badly, I have Herniated Discs in my spine, and I REALLY REALLY need to Shred. I just need to drop bodyfat as quickly as is humanly possible. I have tried EVERY Diet known to man, the best i can do is Intermittent Fasting combined with SUPER Strict Paleo (NO carb Paleo) and even then its got to be done while maintaining Ligament and Tendon strength because I JUST suffered a knee injury I am Rehabbing.

I dont really care about Muscular Size Improvements or Muscular strength gains. Strength gain would be NICE , but I need to be Smaller, not bigger , and if I cant get stronger without getting bigger I frankly couldnt be bothered. In fact I would pretty much sacrifice everything except for my tendon and ligament health to shred all the BF off me in one go. (Magik wand style, you know)

I have 4 seprate Issues

1) Knee injury caused by Judo.
Happened a month ago and is healing rather well, but would like to get back to 100% or better if at all possible. Hyperextended the knee by a 320 lb Black Belt sitting on it.

2) 3 Herniated discs in my spine
(Between C's 3-4-5-6) weakness in left arm, muscular atrophy. couldnt move it at all for a while but it can move all directions now, just weak as shit. This is what has lead me to Steroid use as an alternative. this has been going on for 5 years now and my body has gone to shit - Ill try to post pics but its not pretty. At all.

3) LOW testosterone levels. Like 300s low.
Doctors basically told me they wont do shit until they are below 200.
I used to live with three women and fuck like a racehorse until they gave me meds to "fix" my Autism... now Im lucky if I pop off once every 2 weeks , and I went from looking like the hulk to looking like the Blob. I am tired ALL the time and I dont know what to do about it, And Im done with the "well you're still breathing and not bleeding, so nothing is wrong with you" mentality/treatment.

4) IM BIG AS SHIT.
Always have been. Like 400 lbs range whether in shape or not. I would like to shed all of my BF as fast as humanly possible. Im 6'6" tall and have a 46" waist and 40" thighs. I also wear size 6X gloves. Ive done Martial Arts all my life, and I can drop into the Splits right now, kick above my head, all of that. Never had an Issue moving, but would like my cardio to be better if at all possible.

(Oh, and Im kind of Broke right now so the cheapest soloution would be best - I spent my savings going to an Unexpected funeral right after going to my yearly certification. - either that or I will just have to wait & save up, either or)

NOTE
I work my ASS off EVERY DAMNED DAY in a losing battle to Fight my Genetics, so PLEASE dont tell me to "work out" or "run" or anything about Diet. I have a VERY strict Regimen - 5X more strict than some of the Pro Fighters that i work with - which nets my ass not even 1/10 of the results. If you arent going to be helpful p[lease save your comments and jokes for someone else.

Thank you in advance to those that are Helpful.
~J

**EDIT: MEALS/FOOD **

I pretty much eat the same every day, so Im going to list whats in my kitchen :

Frozen (veg):

Kale
Broccoli
Spinach
Collard Greens
Turnip Greens
Mustard Greens
Cauliflower

Frozen (meats):

Beef Bacon (ends)
Pork bacon (ends)
Chicken Hearts
Chicken Livers
Chicken thigh quarters
Beef Ribs
Pork Chops
Chorizo Sausage (Ahmish farm)
Kilbasa (Ahmish farm)
Ground Beef

Refrigerated:
Eggs
Minced Garlic
sliced Jalapenos
Sliced Pepperonchinis
Salsa
Distilled water.
Almond Milk
Organic Milk

Frozen (spice):

Habaneros
Pablanos
Jalapenos
Ginger (root whole)
Onions (white and Red, chopped)
Bell Pepper (chopped)

Fats:
Palm Oil (Red African)
Coconut Oil (LouAnna brand)
Grassfed Butter.(Anchor brand, Australian)
Sesame Oil (only used as Flavoring)

Pantry:
ALL the hot Sauces (not listing)
Kidney Beans
Black Eyed Peas
Soy Sauce
Vinegar (Bragg)
Rice wine
Almond Flour
Coconut Flour
Coconut Sugar (used for guests)
Honey (used for guests)
Gluten Free Granola
Gluten Free (Brown Rice/Wheatless) pasta

Fresh Veg:
I buy whats in season, but I tend to follow the above Patterns^.
I also tend to get:
Nappa Cabbage,
Bok Choi,
Leeks,
Cilantro,
Cucumbers
Bananas
Tamarind
Melon
Papaya
Tomatillos
Peppers of all types

Dry Spices:
Granulated Garlic
Granulated onion
Cayanne Pepper
Tumeric
Curry Powder
Masala powder
Ground Ginger
Crushed Red/Chipotle Peppers

Other (supplements - all taken daily):
I take a Liquid Multi,
Azomite powder
Dolemite Powder
Psyllium Fiber (4x/day-every 2 hours)
Knox Geletain (one packet with each psyllium for the Collagen for my Joints)
Blended protein shake for when I dont have any time. (rare)
Vitamin D
Kitamin K
Probiotics
Garcinia Cambogia extract
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylalanine
Taurine
Genseng
Garlic
Green Tea Extract
Cod liver Oil
Vitamin C
Zinc
Flush Free Niacin
Cinnamon
Oil of Oregano
Tumeric Extract

I tend to do a lot of Stir Frying and Steaming using a traditional Bamboo steamer Cast Iron Skillets and a Wok. I also bake chicken pork Chops and Ribs in a Gas Stove. I typically use frozen Veg above and a meat, plus spices and a Fat to cook them in. I tend to consume about 2-3 lbs per day off the above list, and I do it all within the hours of 4pm-12 am. (intermittent fasting). I Distill all my own water and drink two-three gallons per day on avg And I use distilled water in all my cooking and in my Tea which is the only thing i drink that is not water, and I only drink it in my feeding window. (Thinking about adding Bulletproof coffee however, even though i HATE coffee) After all of this i am STILL always hungry. but its enough to stop me from passing out/being light headed all the time. I tend to eat my supplements at 4pm, and start cooking then,eat at like 445-5pm, then again at 9-10 (depending on schedule) then again at 1130.I usually take the supplements that need to be taken with food at the last meal. Every day i eat at LEAST a lb of greens and a Protein source. I tend to have Brown Rice Pasta once every 2 weeks , Bacon Sausage and Kidney Bean Chili once a week, and I will have Granola with a combination of Almond and Organic milk up to 3x/week when I am pressed for time, usu combined with 100-150 grams of a Protein shake.

EDIT Training

Sunday:

Grappling class, 11 AM(3hrs)
Yoga for Fighters 2p (hour)

After that I usually do 3x rounds (30sec on /30sec off/5min) of Sprints work on my basics for about an hour (rolls, Ukemi, forms) and O-Lifting (30-40 min).

Percussion with DJs - 6p-2am. I usually play for all of that minus an Hour. We also have to load in all the instruments and 24,000 watts of sound, which we spend at least another hour before and after doing.

Mon - reserved for Private Lessons, Usually my only day off. Shop, pay Bills, whatever.

Tues -
classes (11a-2p and 6-9p)
Throw 1000 Strikes on heavybag (full force work it in between classes or after)
Work in Yoga
Percussion with live band (10-2a)

Wed -
Privates - mostly Thai Pads and Mitt Holding (3-4 hours scattered between dawn and 5p)
Mechaism training, Tumbling/gymnastics, Gripwork, Speed/double end bag, Dummy training, Kettlebells, Tumbling
Class (6-9p)

Thurs -
classes (11a-2p and 6-9p)
Throw 1000 Strikes on heavybag (full force work it in between classes or after)
Work in Yoga

Fri -
Privates (usu 2 hours, sometimes 3)
Sprints, Basics, O-Lifts
Sparring day. (4-10p) (everyone cycles out its all up to who shows, there is a lot of instruction here and usually no more than an hour in the ring for me)

Bouncing (After hours Club 1-5AM) I dont just throw people out, I dance. I know this sounds silly but it works, more like hosts than security, it stops fights but I actually only spend an hour to 1.5 hours dancing/night

Sat -
Class - Grappling only (8-11a)
Throw 1000 Strikes on heavybag

Open for Padwork until I have to work, it varies, usu 2-5 hours.

Bouncing (After hours Club 1-5AM) I dont just throw people out, I dance. I know this sounds silly but it works, more like hosts than security, it stops/prevents fights but I actually only spend an hour to 1.5 hours dancing/night

DAILY:
Pretty much after that I have to hold pads until 10 (at least) Every day, and of course clean up, etc.

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Go on a heavy cycle with water-drawing stuff like (any) t-jabs or even cheap Dbol, think simply, basic, long-term mass stack..then after a few month change over to something weaker and to rest receptors then back onto heavy ones.... old style. A year will be over quicker than you think Smile
Building up T with PCT beforehand would b a waste of money.

The water you draw will help your joints and the massive T-level will make you loose fat, IF you control your eating! (re-read ..but he, you know a lot about diet, so that shouldnt be an issue)

Heavy workouts, but not too heavy on your injuries. Added cardio, as your not on a "normal" gaining cycle..

Your Judo and diet background will help you keeping a strict regime. Judo is lots of isometric brute force, keep that up where it doesnt hurt, or you might loose strenght.

Don't waste time with doctors, they would prescribe not enough anyway; buy yourself and enjoy having a choice...I suppose your on the right forum here..that's how I got here. (my background why I'm here is based on functional & health related reasons, age & change of body constitution..relying on docs is mostly a wate of time EXCEPT someone is best buddies with one, or knows a vet, or a gym-going-sports-doc...both extremly seldom and I don't have that luck either)

"kind of Broke right now so the cheapest soloution would be best" well, as you might know by now the gear with the most water retention & androgen effect is the cheapest out there (injectables & orals) only once you go to fancy get-ripped- and diet-cycles it gets expensive. a months suplly of goodold-style mass gaining stuff wouldnt be that much really..

"used to live with three women and fuck like a.." mate, that surly wears one out! Smile lol respect man ..no I get what you meant. And meds prescribed for autism sounds like they did their own bad.

"work my ASS off EVERY DAMNED DAY" mate, don't - you're overtraining most likely - your body needs more rest, especially with your injuries...! as well you lower your test level by training so much (naturally, without gear) Try resting more but increase control of diet & kalories instead.

See all on a years time, don't look at body changes monthly. big changes need big time. If you reached your goal in 12 months time, all is great, right?

All the best mate.

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Have to run to work, might be able to respond on Mobile... Sorry if this was the wrong Protocall, this board is hard for me to navigate, but I didnt really see the difference between posting the whole thing or a link to the other, it takes up the same number of posts.

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That's a lot to digest...If I don't get back and respond within a day or two send a friend request and pm me

Nitti's picture

X2. It's too much for me to read in one sitting as I am usually at work when I pop in. Be more specific and keep it short and sweet. Maybe I can help.