posted Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:20
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t3 dosage for a six week clen cycle?
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whats the proper t3 pyramid for a 6 week clen cycle? 2 weeks on. 2 weeks off. 2 weeks on. used clen before. never t3. also, is ketotifen recommended for a 6 week cycle?
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im pretty sure if you use clen with t3 you wont lose much muscle as clen has anticatabolic effects, which is why people use it as a pct
I read up on t3 you should definitely use prop with it...I took it recently and didn't lose bf percentage which means I lost muscle back to the drawing board ....down 13 pounds in 2 weeks ...probably lost 75% muscle 25 % fat
dont do t3.. trust me, you can research all you want, i took it once, and lost 12 lbs, then rebounded 9... wasnt worth it... and my diet was on point!!
If you stick to no more than 75mcg of t3 you shouldnt see catabolic effects, and to avoid fucking up the thyroid, you steadily taper it, you dont really need to taper clen that much, but to get used to the effects it helps (also i know people suggest 125mcg of t3, but imo its not worth the muscle loss)
the cycle im about to start looks like this
day 1 clen 40mcg/t3 25mcg
day 2 clen 40mcg/t3 25mcg
day 3 clen 60mcg/t3 25mcg
day 4 clen 60mcg/t3 37.5mcg
day 5 clen 80mcg/t3 37.5mcg
day 6 clen 100mcg/t3 50mcg
day 7 clen 100mcg/t3 50mcg
day 8 clen 120mcg/t3 75mcg
day 9 clen 120mcg/t3 75mcg
day 10 clen 140mcg/t3 75mcg
day 11 clen 140mcg/t3 50mcg
day 12 clen 120mcg/t3 37.5mcg
day 13 clen 80mcg/t3 25mcg
day 14 clen 40mcg/t3 12.5mcg
and im going to repeat it 3 times, with two week recovery periods inbetween each
shirlsguyBUMP -
Hopefully I can bump this to a topic for the day, Clen/T3 cycling while on AAS cycle. I've been through about 1,000 pages last few weeks as I am going to start today, and this seems like the best template.
Control: As a control, I really only want to discuss the 'two weeks on/two week off' cycle, repeated three times over 12-weeks. Of course all comments are important, but this is the basic template I have decided upon with just a couple tweaking questions left.
Goal: This is to shred for EBC only. I have no problem losing weight, I have that part under control, clean diet, etc. My timeline was just bumped up, that is all. The goal is to maintain most my muscle mass and still get those abs showing by 15 May. Tren/Test 75/50 ed with Anavar 50 ed will be the muscle saving program along with great diet and medium-heavy lifting. Dreaded jogging and bicycling is going to be the aerobic element, 30-minutes 5-days per week.
Question I want to discuss:
(1) Do those who use this cycle taper 'each' two-week cycle or just the last one? I have noted some people keep the 1st cycle peaked and then jump into the second one where they left off.
(2) What is the average Clen 'sweet spot' people find. Reading has led me to believe that most people are happy up to 140mcg, but results get spotty from there with almost everyone miserable at 200mcg.
(3) T3 sweet spot: This cycle goes up to 75mcg. Most reading seems happy with 50mcg. Anyone have experience that says 75mcg works better than 50mcg?
+1 for posting a page that I have confidence in after researching.
Right now im taking all at the same time: 120mcg Clen, 50mcg T3, and 200mcg T4, but I used to cycle them separately. I did the T3 for 3 weeks then Clen for 3 weeks and repeated until I was where I wanted to be. It isn't as strong as running them together, but with the earlier cycle I never had to have an off period or gain unwanted weight back in between cycling.
shirlsguyThanks brother, so 120/50 gives you the results you like. I may just stick to that peak level rather than push boundaries, a lot of people give me warnings.
safetyfirst21Run your keto or benadryl, whatever you're using from day one. Clen down regulates the beta receptors, keto and ben help uptake it. Don't do the two on two off unless you're for sure doing your uptake the whole two off. Two weeks isn't enough time to get these receptors back in check. Theres a reason if you haven't run clen before, or in a good long while, you have to start at a low dose. Even after the two off you'll need more than the start. Your receptors get used to it quickly and take awhile to become sensitive again. Clen has an arguable half life depending on who you ask. I've heard anywhere from 10-30 hours. I call it 24 based on how long I've noticed sides from first administration. So once a day is good there. T3 has a 10 hour half life, so you should split your dosage in half (25mcg twice a day). After a few days at your T3 pay attention to everything even at 50mcg a day, you can notice, "huh, I just shit a great deal of blood....odd."
I never shit blood from T3. Are you sure that is what caused it?
shirlsguyI'm glad to catch that, 'cause if I never shit blood, I sure did shit a brick researching today!!!
you only said it once
Also keto and benadryl when using clen are hardly needed to upregulate the receptors, the effects of it for this purpose are questionable at best. Just stick to cycling it on and off, 2 weeks each preferably.
sgtstedankoImo. None. Zero t3. As the last thing I'd personally want, is to worry about eating nothing but a chicken salad everyday & still getting fat. Clen only; using yohimbe & benadryl in your off weeks. Is what I'd do, brother. I hope you're using a steroid w/your clen. Otherwise, It's my understanding, that you Will lose muscle : ( feel free to pm me...
Clen doesn't make you lose muscle, T3 does but not clen. Listen OP if you really wanna do T3 then research it properly, read, read and then ask questions if there's something you're unsure about. Fucking up your thyroid from T3 use is possible but if done properly then it can be successful and thyroid recovery can be very quick. But it's up to you to do the research from what I can tell, if you have to ask this kind of question than you're not ready for it. Keep reading as there's too much information that someone can't explain in just one post here.