posted Thu, 11/12/2020 - 17:07
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Loose skin and drugs
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Two questions.
Are there any drugs, supplements, or exercises to tighten up your skin as you lose weight so you don’t get lose skin?
What drugs actually work for weight loss? I’m not on any right now because the weight is coming off fine with the diet and exercise but when/if I need to, what actually works? I tried T3 and that’s very underwhelming. Clen didn’t seem to do anything. What works?
Context. I used to be a power lifter in relatively good shape but after injuries I became a real fat POS who decided not to be fat anymore so now I’m dieting. Thanks.
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If you have lost so many kilos only a surgeon can solve your problems.
Do not take medicines that make no sense.
See a specialized doctor.
JanaVoda"I tried T3 and that’s very underwhelming. Clen didn’t seem to do anything. What works? "
2 words for you : Calorie Deficit
You can take clen or whatever, if your not in Calorie Deficit , they wont work. If your in calorie deficit and take clen you speed up the weight loss with +10-15%.
Some peoples BMR is 1900 Calorie, but they eat 3000, take some clen, harm their body & says sadly : "Hey, these stuff just didnt work for me "..... Yea sure it didn't
You won't have loose skin if you lose skin.
Lose weight responsibly (a few pounds a week) and you'll not need to worry about it... take the drugs you're really hoping to jump on to and then you will have problems.
Thank you for the advice. I’ll take yours.
AnonYou are 25 years old so your loose skin should tighten up some on it's own over time.
I don’t know how much loose skin your talking about, but getting tan can always help tighten the skin. But honestly, I don’t know a supplement or drug that will help with this.
And IMO only - if you are over weight, I would not be using Clen and other weight loss drugs. They can be very harsh on your heart. So keep your macros on n check and exercise.
The skin, maybe start saving some money to get the skin fixed... it would definitely drive you more to losing the weight. It would be like your gift to yourself..
Good luck bro
for the weight loss, the best way is diet. Download the my fitness pal app and track your calories/macros. The drugs like T3, Clean and GH can help, but they are not magic. You have to be in a good diet already in order to lose weight with gear otherwise the results will likely be less than what you could achieve with diet alone. If you were cutting for a bodybuilding contest and were already below 7% fat then gear could get you dried up and more vascular. For me the ECA stack has worked in the past, but all it does is increase your metabolism a bit more and I could have achieved the same by getting in a caloric deficit with high protein.
I stupidly tried to use just drugs in the past to drop pounds and no surprise, it didn’t work. Even with diet though I never noticed any difference. I am dieting now. I just wanted to know if there was anything that really makes the difference. I may not have to use anything at any point but I figured I should gather info just in case.
I'm young still, but I have started to notice a pattern between successful athletes and professionals. These are people who are able to understand a particular field, control for the most important variables, change only one thing and observe the results. This allows them to learn what works and what doesn't. I suggest that you spend some time getting your diet to a very consistent state, that's why I recommend something like my fitness pal. Make sure that you are not under-eating, I noticed that at 1700 calories I was actually gaining fat and losing muscle but at 3,300 its the opposite. This is for me with about 40% protein, 30% fat and 30% carbs and I could still tweak the macros a bit more if I stall or I could even try carb-cycling, but in order for me to be completely sure that I am stalling I would have to also account for sleep and keep my training consistent. There are so many moving pieces and adding gear makes it even harder to know why something is working or not.
There are some studies that show Growth Hormone can help tighten lose skin. I would look at the doses that Anti-aging clinics use for this purpose maybe 2IU per day max. You have to be careful though because GH can cause issues with Glucose and other unwanted side effects so please do your research first. Peptides and SARMs that increase GH/IGF-1 might be another alternative but since they are new we don't know the long term side effects of those. While its a bit more expensive your best bet might be to get a prescription for GH or Peptides from a licensed anti-aging doctor.
I wouldn’t be able to get a script for GH. I’m pretty sure my levels are fine. But that’s good info. Thank you.
A lot of US anti-aging clinics would still prescribe GH if your level falls below 150-180, some of them would even prescribe anavar, anadrol, test and nandrolone after you talk to them. They are pretty liberal on the peptide prescriptions. If you have the money I don't think its a bad idea because they encourage you to get labs before starting you on some of these medications. You can always do it on your own and that's a forum like this is exists but I think there is a benefit to doing these things with a medical professional watching as they give you gray-area legal access to some of these medications, its easy for them to prescribe you harm reduction ancillaries and they also keep your accountable for the labs and your numbers.
Molinin302Anadrol?
@Molinin302 yes, some of the TRT clinics and Anti-Aging clinics will prescribe Anadrol-50 after the run labs and ensure your liver values and hematocrit are not too high. You have to talk to the provider and align your goals and they explain the sides. I've seen this a lot from the private TRT clinics that have deals with compound pharmacies and have you get all the medications from them. I called this area gray-legal, they also make you sign a waiver to ensure that you get in trouble rather than them for prescribing these medications, its a little scary but I haven't heard anybody getting in trouble for it yet.
Yeah, my endo prescribes me whatever I want, he calls it a gray area and I signed a waiver saying if I get caught with the not prescribed ever drugs he sold me that I would be in trouble not him. I am loving my pharma strength crack. My endo has nothing to worry about because I signed that paper and the cops will say its legal. I used to do that in high school too, I made everyone that bought a bag off of me sign a waiver.
I never got in trouble ever.
yes, I too think its silly and its not like if you get in trouble the waiver is going to save them from the trouble of having written the prescription. I am thinking they will write documentation showing that they prescribed it to you for treating a condition but they will say that the patient chose to use it for off-label purposes if they go to court. But the prescriptions are legit, I have traveled with my TRT-cycle package and a TSA agent looked at them once when checking my carry-on but didn't ask me any questions. I doubt that cops would care or know enough to question the prescription either, many people with AIDS get the medication and there are HIPAA laws that protect your medical records too so it gets really fuzzy once you get down to the details.
I know this is the internet and for all you know I am an astronaut football star scientist, but please excuse my ignorance to call bullshit on this. Gray area? No cop or court is going to argue semantics, you get busted you go to jail, and the clinic prescribing compound drugs will follow. Anadrol is prescribed for low red blood cell count; you think I can just walk in and ask for it they will give it to me? How do they alter my medical charts to show I needed it? Yes HIPAA laws are great, but did you also know doctors will get your records and see what was given to you? If my records show no low red blood cell count EVER and I am magically taking it thats not a red flag on your medical record? Ever heard of malpractice? Come on man. There is nothing fuzzy here except your interpretation of truth.
Molinin302Plus one. Lost me at anadrol. Pleeb or LEO. Either way, no bueno. Or c'est n'est bon. In whatever language, not cool. And to the OP, we care about health here. Big time.
@Molinin302 yes, we went off on a tangent. To the OP I wasn't recommending you use Anadrol its pretty harsh on your liver, we all got really excited about this and shouldn't even have gone there.
Molinin302It happens, I think you're going to be ok. But in the future posts, stay in your lane bro. This is a good place. Only share or give advice about what you know. My education gives me the anatomy and physical stuff. Organ function, lipid test results, urine acting funny... you get the idea. We're all pros here, just in different areas. No need to be overzealous. FR accepted buddy. Welcome to the hard-core club. Ya sure you want it?
Its all good, even though Mack messages were kinda blunt they opened my mind to see something I wasn't seeing before.
Molinin302Opening your eyes? I'm going to sneak this in here in hopes no one sees ,(they always see). The OP by my guess is or was, or was/is way overweight. But is what it is. No person here that cares about a fellow member will suggest any drugs to this man. Im not going to be so kind, as he's probably damaged himself already. Still overweight and instead of waiting, he jumped on thyroid meds. Then clenbuterol. Look man, and any new guys that may be reading these drugs are real. This OP may have caused permanent damage. Not saying he will tip over tomorrow, but he already made a decision to play with his thyroid. Made a decision for a brociodilator that has unfortunately has not fun side effects. I do hope he sticks around, but at this time the medications aren't his fix. Diet and exercise. The rest will fall into place.
I am way overweight. The diet and exercise is working great but being the guy I am when I get to low bf it stops coming off. This was a “when/if” question. Not a “I need drug advice now tell me what to take so I can be lazy” question. I’ve used drugs both while dieting and not before yes. They did almost nothing both times. I get checked for shit every year. Don’t worry about me I’m fine. Thank you for your in depth medical analysis. I’d like to add a question. Does the whole forum act like this?
Molinin302"Does the whole forum act like this?"
My bro, its a bunch of adult children with manipulated hormone levels, gotta have thick skin. So yeah, thicken up some of that flappy skin you have blowing around like a tarp in the wind and stick around a while. Its a good place.
I have no filter my man. I'm a very direct person and always have been, it's the old beantown in me. The internet is a place that millions can see posts so what you write can and will be either taken out of context or given validity.
fair point it is really shady practice or malpractice on the patient and practitioner.
The wording says that for "off-label" use the liability is on the patient and not the doctor. Again, I personally and selfishly think the gray-area legal is awesome because it means you can travel both domestic and international with the medications because you have a real prescription. I understand that its selfish because one day behaviors like this will make it harder to get for the people who really need (not want like me) the medications.
Molinin302Yeah, I use a clinic. They recently changed from HCG to gonadorelin because of FDA changes. Ive heard of the other stuff being prescribed, but not anadrol. Thats wild. "Hey doc, how bout a fresh script for my A-bombs!"
the mileage does vary a lot with the different TRT clinics, I know that some of them still do HCG, it really depends on what compounding pharmacy they have a deal with. From my research though only the lower end ones are the ones skimping on HCG these days and the high end ones (more $$ per month) are the ones that still do HCG and also prescribe the extra goodies.
I did not know that. I’ll see if a clinic around me would do that.