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Testosterone enanthate mass gain pointers...

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So I've been on Test E 500mg a week pinning twice a week for 5 weeks now and I have a few questions about the protocol I should follow for maximum results. Age 26 weight 222 bf:14% workout 5 days a week I work at a call center 8-12 hours a day so I'm curious about nutrition I try to focus on consuming at least 3,600 calories a day which is relatively clean; Chicken breast, white/brown rice, hardboiled eggs, lean beef (80-93%) you get the point but I'm curious because I haven't noticed a change in appetite but I do eat to force my body to grow, I'm wondering if I'm overeating because my lifestyle outside of the gym is mostly at a desk? On top of that a guy who I occasionally lift with is adamant about overtraining although we are enhancing he is saying bodyparts get hit once a week... To me that sounds wrong because to me the purpose of enhancement is to allow the body to adequately recover so the way I see it is as long as the muscles worked on Monday are recovered by Wednesday I can hit them again? Overtraining in my opinion is a cop out and overtraining while enhanced is slim to none.

GymPitbul13's picture

What's up man? How was your diet before you started your cycle? How many carbs are you eating a day? What hours of the day? How much fat are you getting a day? What's your pre/post gym meals looking like? How many meals a day? Have you tried casein protein before bed to hold you over? Are you pushing carbs first thing in the AM?

In no way am I saying you don't know anything about diet just trying to look at it a little deeper. I plateaued out on my second cycle test enanthate 500mg a week and it was 100% due to my diet, timing of meals, lack of calories and misconception of carbs. @Rustyhooker put me onto a guy who gave him a lot of great knowledge on food. He would be a good guy to look up and try to pick his brain. (Also he's one of the more friendly MODs I've come across on here). Some guys the one day a week works but the general rule as I know it is 48 hours.

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My nutrients are broke down 30% carb 30% fat 40% protein I have an endo body type.im eating 5 meals a day. 3800 calories a day, 280G carb 126G fat 360G protein (1.6G/lb)Meal 1) 5 hardboiled egg whites 2 cups oatmeal 4 pieces toast multi vitamin, flaxseed oil. Meal 2- 4chicken breast 1.5 cups white rice. Workout after meal 4 then meal 5 will be whatever dinner I made. As far as casein no I eat more hardboiled eggs or whey with whole milk and peanut butter. usually before bed depending on how I feel. I put on 11 pounds naturally before I ever cycled. I work with a lot of dumbbell movements in the gym for higher intensity

GymPitbul13's picture

Your diet seems pretty dialed in. I'm no expert but the only thing id add is switching up your protein choices. Add some ground turkey, bison, fish or any other leans meTs into your diet. I struggle with my BF% which my heritage doesn't help Sicilian/Irish but one big thing that was a game changer for me was adding casein before bed. I hate the taste of it so I mix it with one or 2 cups of egg whites, throw it in the microwave n boom I got a lil night time cake/brownie kind of thing. Might be a better option than the peanut butter before bed. I think over training just depends on your body really. I'm doing...
Arms
Back
Chest/tri
Legs/bi
Shoulders
Repeat
I hit 30 minutes a day on the eliptical n when I can tell my body needs a day off from lifting I hit 30 eliptical/30 treadmill or stairmaster (hour of cardio)I just try n listen to my body instead of worrying about over trainihg or this or that. If I feel good I hit it. If I dont I switch it up n do sonething else.
But again there are def some more knowledgable people on this site. Hopefully they see your post. Again one of the easiest dudes on here I find to talk to is RustyHooker. Look him up. He's a good brain to pick n he seems like a good dude.

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My nutrients are broke down 30% carb 30% fat 40% protein I have an endo body type.im eating 5 meals a day. 3800 calories a day, 280G carb 126G fat 360G protein (1.6G/lb)Meal 1) 5 hardboiled egg whites 2 cups oatmeal 4 pieces toast multi vitamin, flaxseed oil. Meal 2- 4chicken breast 1.5 cups white rice. Workout after meal 4 then meal 5 will be whatever dinner I made. As far as casein no I eat more hardboiled eggs or whey with whole milk and peanut butter. usually before bed depending on how I feel. I put on 11 pounds naturally before I ever cycled. I work with a lot of dumbbell movements in the gym for higher intensity

BawsDawg's picture

What are the macros of your 3600?

Are you getting most of your protein from food?

At 225 I typically consume 3500 to maintain, if have to go higher to build more muscle (3800ish) and if on a "mass" or bulker cycle is hit near 4000.

Doss's picture

The more active you are, the more your appetite will increase.

treadinontren's picture

Sir I'm glad you posted here as I wanted to talk to you on an unrelated note, that review you posted earlier tonight is unacceptable. Under product effectiveness you wrote that you had just pinned for the first time on Tuesday, that is not enough time to review a product nor does it tell us anything about sides, gains, etc. You've been saved so far but you need to wait until you use a product for an appropriate period of time before reviewing

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I was under the impression that I could review based on the transaction with the supplier since it was a source review.Apologies,misunderstood.