CRAZE !
I have always been a big proponent of supplementation to assist in bodybuilding goals, of course there are the necessary supplements like protein and multi-vitamin/mineral complexes; then there are the supplements that can finish out your arsenal and maximize your gains. Whether you use a pre-workout supplement or not, it's hard to ignore (if you've ever used one) that they can give you a kick in the ass when you're dragging, or give you the energy to get a few more reps or push a little more weight. At the end of the day, any little bit helps in the quest for gains. So here comes the point of my title, it's the name of the best damn pre-workout I have tried to date, and I have tried many! I know I'm relatively new to this board, so my word may not mean much... but this shit is legit! I am writing this for two reasons, one to tell you guys that it's an awesome pre-workout, to share the love so to speak... and then also to predict that this stuff is either not going to be legal or formulated the same forever. I think the unique component in this (the dendrobium extract) is likely to go the way of 1,3-dimethylamine. Things always get fucked up when they work "too" well, right?
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Craze just came in the mail, can't wait to try it. I've tried Adrenolyne Cuts though, gonna be hard to top that. I can't take that 8 hours before bed or I won't sleep, and I wake up every 2 hours wanting to roll the ole lady over and poke her lol
Are you saying the dendrobium extract is similar to 1.3 dimethylamine??
This stuff is like taking a damn Adipex. I have access to a lot of free supplements and i've pretty much tried all there is to date and Craze is definitely a different animal. Wouldn't be suprised to see it off the market before long.
Looks like they are good for now... at least until the FDA decides dendrobium is too cool for school
http://www.drivensports.com/20130207377/Blog/baseless-lawsuit-against-cr...
Man that's some BS. I mean I'm glad there is a federal organization that can regulate an industry for the consumers protection but at times the FDA does some senseless stuff. How many hundred of thousands of people took the original Jack3d and a handful of people died under questionable circumstances, i.e. a marathoner in the UK, I mean shit running in a marathon already places stress on the heart. And soldiers who had heart attacks while working out in the DESSERT on Jack3d. I've worked out in Central American gyms without AC and I can testify that you will sweat like a pig and your heart will be pounding and the conditions in Central American gyms are far from the conditions you find working out in the fucking desert...
But on a positive note even if Craze is banned you should be able to find it on store shelves for a long time. Looked at Jack3d its Dim 1,3 was made illegal a while ago yet I was in Vitamin shop the other day and they had an entire shelf of it with the original ingredients.
It's all about the pharmaceutical lobby... to relate it to something fairly recent, it's the same reason why Ephedra was banned. What, something more effective and safer than some shit like Phen-Fen ? Gotta ban that asap!
How does it make sense that alcohol and cigarettes are legal if the government really gives a shit about what is "safe" for people to use?
I hear you bro.
Craze is probably gonna be my next Pre Work out I try. Ive tried Jack3d and C4, To me there both good stuff. I think I like C4 more... Can't wait to pick up some Craze. Where can I get a good deal on this stuff? Amazon?
Depending on what part of the country you're in (assuming it's the US), your best bet is gonna be either bodybuilding.com or allstarhealth.com . Make sure you search the bb.com forums for a 10% off coupon before you order though to maximize your savings.
Anyone got an idea on the caffeine content of this? The reason I ask is that I'm pretty sensitive. Normally I take 2 scoops of the stuff from cellucor. C4. I like it and it's not crazy high in caffeine. Usually I don't finish it, but I have killer workouts.
Yep craze will be the next one to be banned. It's really good.
Craze is a good PreW. Give the new Jack3d micro a shot, I hear it's really good. I never was a fan of Jack3d but the word on the new Micro jack3d is they really out did themselves.
I wasn't a fan of Jack3d either, I tried it.. but after all the hype started coming out for that stuff, and the fanboys started hyping their ratings on all the supplement rating sites I kinda wrote USP labs off as like another Apple... Not to mention that all their other products seemed like complete junk to me, other than their Modern BCAA, which I now use simply due to their ratio of leucine (8:1:1).
I haven't tried the micro version, and unless I get a free sample I don't plan on spending the money on a tub.
I really liked the old jacked but I tried the new micro stuff and returned it after the first work out, it was pretty weak. Now Im on assault but it destroys my stomach so I think Im going to give craze a try when I get paid.
I got the same effect from MP Assault.. A serving is a huge scoop alot more than Craze, jack3d etc and it always upsets my stomach..
MP Assault? It's been forever since I've tried Assault, have they come out with a new formula or is it still the same one. I don't remember how well it was, but if I don't remember it must have no been that good lol. 1MR, I got really good workouts off of, but it tasted terrible.
I can neither confirm nor deny that the re-labeled Assault is in fact a new formula, or just re-labeled. MP re-labeled all of their stuff, so my first guess is that it's just that. I can say that I've used both old and new labeled Assault and I was a big fan for awhile there, but like all pre-workouts you start to see diminishing returns so I switched it up. I thought they both worked about the same as well.
I figured I'd give MP another shot since it's been so long. Just picked up some Blue Raspberry Assault earlier today, so I'll report back later this week and see how I like it.
It's been a couple weeks now, Assault reminds me of Super Pump honestly. Assault isn't so bad, definitely glad I picked up a tub. Have you heard of O.N.'s PRE- ? I received a couple samples from my gym Friday evening, so I'm going to give them a try this upcoming week. Looks promising!
I have heard OF Optimum's PRE, just not heard anything about it; nor have I tried it myself. Let us know how it works for you.
I vouch for this.. I have literally tried dozens of pre-workouts. I just started my tub a week ago and holy shit. I'm at another level.
Yeah, I was wondering about this one so you ran other pre supps like J3D,1mr and so on and this is the one Huh. I guess I better give it a try thanks for the info BCA.
Yeah bro, i've tried the ones you've listed plus about a dozen other ones.. I actually went through the trouble of listing them but because I'm typing on a laptop atm I accidently hit the touchpad and it went to the previous page so all the shit I typed poofed, haha.
Anyhow, I've tried all the popular ones on the market currently, and Craze is my no. 1 right now. I have a bottle of this new NanoVapor, but I honestly think the key right now is the dendrobium extract. I am telling you, I don't think this stuff will last. I saw the days when ephedra was the shit (ECA stacks) and that was just about the only thing you needed to lose fat and use as a pre-workout... we all know how that went, the shit worked too well and had to become illegal.
Keep in mind I'm only talking about pre w/o's with stims in them. Also, in case it comes up, no I don't work for or are affiliated with ANY supplement company.