posted Fri, 11/16/2012 - 11:15
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casein want some sugestion
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just want your experience and view on casein . i suggest my friend to take casein. and he said casein a waste of money.we argue on that topic . he show me this this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdK-e1wX1M .its just one person view .how about you guys?
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i use to buy it all the time my self mate but yeah it is a massive draw back in the money factor
my night time shake is
armlond milk 150g,egg whites 100g,350g low fat organic cottage cheese,scoop of protine for flavour,scoop of penutbutter organic
i wake up and my bodys full each n every time
thank you guys!
Anonproteins are comprised of individual ammino acids bound together forming peptides. the individual sequence and assortment of the amino acids determine the characteristics and properties of the proteins themselves.
when we ingest proteins, the peptide chain is too loarge to be absorbed and enter the blood stream. imagine a beaded necklace (with small beads) and a large sifter (with holes large enough for the individual beads to pas thru). the necklace would represent the peptide chain, the individual beads representing the amino acids making up the chain, and the sifter would represent the intestinal membrane. if you dropped that necklace into the sifter, would the beads fall thru? nope, because the chain is too complex. in order for it to pass thru, the beads would need to be separated from one another. the same is true when ingesting proteins.
the more complex that peptide chain is, the longer it takes for the enzymes to dismantle it. a similar analogy would be the difference between simple and complex carbs. because the simple sugars can be rapidly absorbed, they contribute to a rapid rise in blood glucose levels. complex carbs on the otherhand take a bit more time to breakdown and absorbed more gradually that they sort of trickle into the blood stream, which contributes to an overall constant level of blood glucose. the same is true with some proteins. whey protein has a very short peptide chain and, therefore, is broken down and absorbed into the blood stream more rapidly. whereas, casein consists of a much longer peptide chain. as a result - like complex carbs - casein takes much longer to breakdown and enter the blood stream and, therefore, contributes to a more gradual increase in and longer lasting blood protein levels.
where casein would be most beneficial would be during the day when activity level is not too high, or an hour or so before strenuous exercise. another time would be at night before bed. by maintaining a more constant level of blood proteins, especially when carbs are restricted and glucose levels are limited, these blood proteins can be made available for gluconeogenesis (making of new glucose) while preserving lean tissue.
casein is way overpriced and extremely overrated. here's why:
when you sleep you burn calories... how many? Depending on the ratio of lean body mass a 200lb male burns about 80-85 calories per hour, multiply that by the average hours of sleep (8hours) and one has burned approximately 640-680 calories during sleep.
so is 1 scoop of casein (24g protein, 1g fat, 3g carb) 120 calories going to do anything?
solution:
eat a high protein meal with some fats before bed. chicken, beef, fish - anything. adding some extra virgin olive oil or nuts will naturally slow digestion. or if you're still hell bent on getting casein - drink milk (it protein profile is roughly 80% casein and 20% whey)
Bud caza has it right on the money
Casein is a slow digesting protein so its ideal to take it so you dont have to wake up at night to get some protein, even though I wake up to piss almost every night. But it is ideal to take it before bed because you are not eating or drinking for roughly 8 hours and still need to fuel your body until you wake up and have your breakfast and shake.
IMO your friend is wrong myself and everyone I workout with use casein and whey isolate, the hydro whey on the otherhand may be a bit bogus and a marketing ploy haven't looked into it much though.
Bang. You hit that nail on the head bro. It's crazy how many people miss that fact about sustaining nutrient uptake whle sleeping. Just for that comment bro +1 from me
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