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Hi al,
First of all excuses for my bad english.

2 days ago I did my first competitie.
I did it because me and my wife wanted To do it once.
And it was so great I want more and going for the same show next year.
Im on doctor trt and get bood done every 6 weeks.
Om starting in 3 weeks, now im enjoying food and get my bod some rest then 2 weeks holliday and then I got 49 weeks left.

My stats
1.85m
84 kg
3.7 % fat
Done a couple of cycle and run almost everything.
I dont like tren use it only in last six weeks pre contest.
So I have like 37 weeks of bulking and 12 weeks To prep
Im doing classic bb so I can weight 10 kg more next show.
So I need some serious mass this year.

I thought some thing like
1-6 500 mg test
7-21 750 mg test
7-21 deca 500 mg
22-28 500 test
29-49 600 bold
43-49 test/mast/tren/t3/clen

Any comment will be great thnx

quibus's picture

Thnx every body
Then im going To use myostatin...hehe cruise it is.
Thnx for the info help and advice ,

quibus's picture

Ok thnx for the input.
Im gonna make it in 2 cycle with a cruise in between
@catalist u are right diet is ok, I just eat what my coach tell me To eat Smile 10 kg isnt a must, it is what I can have and still be classic bb I think its gonna cost more time To add 10 kg muscle.
So its gonna be more like
10 weeks test deca
Cruise
16 weeks test bold
End of bold cycle drop the test and add tren mast for 6 weeks
Im eating clean and cheat on saterday 2 meals

Catalyst's picture

49 weeks on cycle is nonsense, TRT or not. 10kg of mass in a year is about your diet, not how many drugs you can ram into the timescale.

shawn0712's picture

After awhile increased protein synthesis stops. That's why many people will add an oral or a compound at the end of their cycles. To give it a kick and boost a little more out of it. Eventually you're just taking a bunch of shit for maintenance and being harder on your body than you need to be.
You'd benefit more doing two cycles within that time frame. Health and gain wise.
I don't compete, but I've extended cycles beyond what I should have and have seen the waste involved.

TattedDeazy's picture

You build a tolerance to the dose bcuz your body gets custom to it . Yes your body does need a break but if you cruise or come off you're body becomes less sensetovr to the gear it self . There are many others on this forum who blast and cruise or just simply come off to regulate their receptors

kh1216's picture

The clogged receptor theory is a load of broscience garbage... The androgen receptor upregulates in the presence of its agonists... so the longer you juice the more receptors your body makes. Therefore there's no tolerance that will ever be built. Myostatin and other things come into play after a while to slow growth, but it is not the androgen receptor

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Totally agree.... i have been preaching my receptor theories for years but nobody ever listened..... the skill part to receptor manipulation is learning which compounds work best for us as individuals and then learning how to "Shotgun" or "Blast" whichever name suits, at the correct time within a extremely well planned and timed AAS run.... within an "Array" or more commonly known "Stack" it would be best to use the specific compounds which the user knows very well to maximise the upregulation of receptors and therefore maximise Anabolic windows.

These days most guys go asleep on cycle with a "Pin and forget" mindset...... then after 5/6/7+ cycles they wonder why growth is minimal, or go down the the road of screaming BUNK GEAR.... Lmao!!

kh1216's picture

Yes sir! Studies have been done that prove those theories. This is why we got this especially excellent load of broscience unstickied so this didn't get spread anymore
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/clearing-your...

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Read this if you haven't already. Excellent thread! May save Viking some typing.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/switching-compounds-so...

kh1216's picture

Gonna give that a look appreciate it

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thanks Pin.... +3 brudda Smile

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Who said cycle?.. not me!!

I am talking about receptors here not year round cycles...... Blast/Cruise is not like the cycles you are used to bro... for normal gym rats cycling on and off is adequate for thier goals but step up the ladder a tad or two and competition is goal then things have to change drastically ... i.e if a guy wants to compete lets say six/seven times per year which is the norm these days normal cookie cutter cycle/PCT does not cut the mustard.

In fact while we are on the subject and you are questioning my theories i will say in public i believe constant crashing and boosting of the HPTA does way more harm long term than low dose cruising.

At the end of the day it comes down to the end user.. if he has no respect for the AAS substances/dosages he/she uses, then problems usually mirror abuse.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Yeah i see that abuse too bro... guys like that wont last long in the game, ive seen guys like that on here and morso in real life, they simply disappear when their super fucked up plan fails and they hit the deck so hard they simply walk away from even training with some limp excuses trying their best to cover up for their own stupidity and misgivings.

i.e.... how many self pics do you see on here from guys we knew a couple of years ago with stupid plans that ever return to show us their new massive rippling bodies ?????......... NEVER bro i think you will agree lol.

You know your usage limitations and i respect you for that.... you already know my feelings for the fools that run stupid year round because we have spoken about it many many times in private.

kh1216's picture

Well there's still the massive concerns with health and everything else. All I was mentioning was the androgen receptor not other deleterious effects

shawn0712's picture

I'm interested in understanding the complete mechanism. I understand how receptors increase. I've also noticed that after a certain amount of time the explosive growth slows. I'm always a bit obsessive trying to maximize my gains out of a cycle. I tend to eat and train harder pushing for those extra few pounds.
My cycles are never extremely complex, usually no more than two compounds and maybe an oral. But I seem to do better over the course of a couple than trying to prolong one past a certain point.
I don't plan on changing the way I do things. I'm getting to that age where health and appearance have an equal bearing. But I like the science behind things. I'll look more into all of this.

shawn0712's picture

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quibus's picture

I finished my show the Day before yesterday so I am really ripped.
Now I have 39 weeks To bulk up and 10 To get ripped again Smile
I look up for a link of show pics

TheFlash85's picture

pmsl. not even.................... 3.7 body fat? what do you think a "cycle" like you have laid out is going to do to your 3% body fat?

post a picture? you must be absolutley ripped, cut and chisiled, either that or your name is skeletor