Slice's picture
Slice
  • 14
2016

When is the best time to drop these compounds before a show?

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Hello all,

Currently I'm prepping for my first show and wanted to know the proper times to drop oils/hgh before the day of the show. I've looked around on the internet and haven't found much good information. I'll be running all my orals and t4 until the day of the show. My question is how many days before the show should I stop these compounds:
hgh (Hyges)
Tren a
Test p
Mast p
Eq

Thanks in advance.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Depending on your current bodyfat and water retention there is no need to drop any of the steroids you are running in that list... GH should be dropped maybe 4wks out again depending on condition ?..... you need to tell us how far out you are and most importantly its ALL about the diet at this stage...... without knowing what you look like now and how far out the show is i cant tell you anything!.. nobody can so the post is pointless without some facts up in here.

TheFlash85's picture

hes 25 years old running over 3 grams of juice a week including over 700mgs of tren a week, hgh and multiple orals.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

LMFAO!....... is that all!!............... usually double that with these yung-uns these days.... just hope he knows what hes doing hey bro, dont sound like it though with a question like he posted.

TheFlash85's picture

1050mgs test prop a week- 700mgs tren ace a week- 700mgs mast prop a week- over 1000mgs of eq per week plus winstrol and t4 aswell as other orals, and 8 ius of hgh a day, no mention of any supports or anything else no diet no nothing.

this is the worst ive seen just because hes " competing"

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Alot of the young ones on here do not compete and look like piles of shit and run more than that bro!.... did you not know this is the era of "more is better"... i dont get frustrated anymore i just laugh my bollocks off at the ignorance of these pricks..... will they still be be competing or even training when they are my age???..... WILL THEY FUCK is the answer to that one.

Makwa's picture

I just broke out in a cold sweat just thinking about trying to pin all of that!

IrishMack's picture

Well; it doesn't matter because he is competing. Do you mean you don't take that much when you get ready for a show? What's wrong with you? LOL. Ignorance is bliss and a lot of people have it on Tap lately.

TheFlash85's picture

we know what the go is when it comes to shows, etc etc but at 25 plus in open forum I think is crazy, eroids standard is higher than that, if he wants someone to say yes, he should go over to the numb nuts at meso, where theyd probablt tell him to triple it. smh

Makwa's picture

Show prep is such an individualistic thing. I would be more worried about carb, sodium and water intake/loading the week before show and not as concerned about compounds as long as the ones I was using are low/no aromatizing. It may take a few shows to get things dialed in perfectly for your body so keep detailed notes of EVERYTHING (carbs, sodium, macros, calories, water, compounds, etc) so you know what to try differently for the next show if you didn't come in the way you wanted.

I am excited about the next EBC because it is going to be good practice to try out different strategies and help get all of those things dialed in for my next show.

Slice's picture

Thanks for the reply. I am lucky to be working under a pro who also said the same thing about the log. I have started a detailed log and can't wait to look back on it and only improve. Good luck in your next show

TheFlash85's picture

Pro.. He should be able to tell you then

IrishMack's picture

You list your stats as 5' 7" and 210 pounds. Let me ask you, what did you enter? Bodybuilding Comp? Powerlifter?

Slice's picture

Bodybuilding

Slice's picture

Thanks man. I'm pretty far out right now still. My coach wants me to come in absolutely shredded with no doubt of my conditioning. It'll be a bit easier than trying to lose it super fast. Will be posting pics for sure

IrishMack's picture

Well, I'm 5' 7" and 208 pounds so I would LOVE to see what the OP looks like.

Bigs251's picture

I would drop the eq 4 weeks out, hgh 1-2 weeks to be safe at a higher dose, test that Wednesday before the show and run your tren and mast till the show. I wouldn't run all your orals till the day of the show though not a good idea.

Slice's picture

When would you drop the orals?

IrishMack's picture

Dropping EQ 4 weeks out he will fail the test; EQ stays in your system for 5 months 0.o

Slice's picture

Just because you can detect it in your system for 5 months doesn't mean it's half-life is 5 months. Detection time does not = half-life. Do you really think I'll be holding water from eq 5 months after my last injection? Seriously?

IrishMack's picture

If you know this information why are you asking for help? Clearly your answer shows you know more about EQ then I ever will right? Seriously? EQ's half life is 4-5 MONTHS and is detectable in trace amounts up to a year. So go ahead and say I'm an idiot and don't know what I'm talking about; fail your test and then punch yourself in the face for ignoring the truth.
I can't remember where I got this excerpt from; but EQ is something I am currently using and will need to be out of my system for my contest in December. I am a Powerlifter btw and weigh 2 pounds less then you and the same height.

Equipoise is not an ideal steroid for the drug tested athlete however. This drug has the tendency to produce detectable metabolites in the urine months after use, a worry most commonly associated with Deca-Durabolin. This is of course due to the high oil solubility of long chain esterified injectable steroids, a property which enables the drug to remain deposited in fatty tissues for extended periods of time. While this will reliably slow the release of steroid into the blood stream, it also allows small residual amounts to remain present in the body far after the initial injection. The release of stubborn stores of hormone would no doubt also be enhanced around contest time, a period when the athlete drastically attempts to mobilize unwanted body fat. If enough were used in the off-season, the athlete may actually fail a drug screen for boldenone although many months may have past since the drug was last injected.

Roid Noid's picture

big is not talking about testing for steroids hes talking about dropping the test wed. there is no drug testing before a show

IrishMack's picture

Ahh Thanks Roid, I thought there was so never mind my posts. I only assumed there was due to my show coming up in December and they are drug testing.

Bigs251's picture

NPC shows are not tested

Bigs251's picture

I would also run your estrogen blocker till the night before the show

Slice's picture

Any idea for prami??

Bigs251's picture

Not sure or the prank makes me to sick to run

TheFlash85's picture

cmon mate if your competing you should know........ sounds like your fishing also wheres your stats and cycle history...

Slice's picture

I should know because I'm competing? There's a lot of people who compete who do not know everything, hence why they ask questions. If I knew I wouldn't ask. Do you have an answer?

TheFlash85's picture

after stats and cycle history, if your competing, yes you should have some basic knowledge , especially when running grams and grams including ed tren...... over 3 grams a week with orals aswell..... you should be an expert....

IrishMack's picture

I can't agree more, someone who is putting their body through that much stress with tons of compounds should have even a TINY bit of knowledge of detection time and so on. And competing as well and doing AAS and not knowing, that's fkn baffling to me. He better hope the competition is not right around the corner because that EQ is gonna haunt his ass.

Slice's picture

I'm not an expert. I'm not a pro. I do have a basic idea when to drop them, I'd like to hear different perspectives and opinions on this matter though. Especially if it were from an expert. Sorry you don't like the amount of gear I take, but I really don't give a fuck. So do yourself a favor and stop wasting your time in this thread.

TheFlash85's picture

My training partner just won our local comp here mate, I trained with him every single day, and I was pinning him, he took half that amount of gear, it was hard work in the gym and eating the rite things at the rite time, I don't give a shit, just because you add in the word competition doesn't mean shit, any troll can say there going to compete, doesn't mean I'll give the nod to run that cycle, stats and cycle history.

Slice's picture

I'm not sure what your problem is. Did I imply that I don't train hard or diet? I'm not looking for your nod of approval either. I'm looking for an answer to my question, which you don't have. So good luck in your endeavors and good for your friend to win the comp.

TheFlash85's picture

if you implied my comments as having a problem, your the one with one, I have no problem with you, your cycle is ridiculous, I don't know you, and I haven't seen you post before, theres a whole bunch of guys on here, including myself, who have been spending many, many hours a day helping and schooling people in the cycle sections, I have seen a lot of people get flamed( yet pointed in rite direction) for running stupid cycles like yours, just because you add in the word " competition" does not mean shit, other wise the next thing to happen will be a bunch of 19 yo guys coming in saying there competing and wanting to run over 3 grams of juice, hgh and multiple orals, typical abuse aswell as obviously compensating for something your not doing rite-
you are no different to any one else because you say you are 'competing"
what are your full stats and cycle history, including age?
what are your ancillaries for on cycle, when are you taking them and what dose?
what is your p.c.t?
don't want to answer the questions? no service, that's the way it works around here, also a cycle like that should be done through pm and not in open forum, no every 16 yo tom, dik, and harry are going to read it and think if they run all that they can compete..which is bull shit

IrishMack's picture

post a retarded cycle and not answer any serious questions unless its an approval. I could not have said this better myself.

TheFlash85's picture

yep, and your one of the dudes that spends hours daily helping in the cycles section, why does he think he doesn't have to do the same as everyone else because he used the word competing? if his coach is a pro, he wouldn't need to post it here, it smells off too me to be honest, seems like hes chucked this cycle together says hes competing and wants someone to say yes too it, why has he got different responses to anyone else? because he added compete?

Makwa's picture

Might help to list your dosages of the compounds you are taking. It may be a matter of adjusting your dosages and not dropping completely. Need to know what and how much you are taking.
And put some stats up.

Slice's picture

The dosages may change based on how I respond/feel/look but right now it's planned at 8iu hgh, 100mg tren, 100mg mast, 150mg test all ed. a gram of eq / week. Orals are 50mg winny, 15mg halo, 50mg proviron ed. D

Slice's picture

Those are the orals, 15mg halo 50 winny 50 proviron

Bigs251's picture

What's the point of dropping test that far out?

Roid Noid's picture

make sure you get people that actually compete with experience to answer this!