What do you guys think if I introduce tren into my cycle??
Hey eroids brothers. My current cycle (14 weeks in) is 900 test E/C, and 600 Deca. Pretty much 1.5g of test. It's my first time running the cycle this long, and I've been seeing amazing results just recently week 10 on. I am a little bit more puffy to say the least but gaining more strength than usual. However, I was thinking to drop the test e/c (just switched up bottles no big deal) and deca at the same time, and do 4 weeks of Prop to get cut up (takes 4 weeks min for deca to clear and 2 for test E) I was thinking of running the Prop at 200mg eod as i usually do, and maybe 25mg daily/eod of tren ace. Is 4 weeks too little to get a any results from tren in your experience? I want to introduce tren to my body within the next few cycles, and I thought I could experience the sides towards the end of this cycle and be prepared. I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH TREN. Calorie intake is around 6500, I've done every cycle there is besides EQ and tren. 6'0, 220lbs 8% bf, 400+gram protein daily.
Basically to summarize for the few dont want to read, is 4 weeks of Tren Ace enough time for some strength gains? I'm not worried about gyno/prolactin issues (mixing deca/tren)
Thanks in advance bros
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So I dropped Deca about 8 days ago, I'm going to let it clear my system for 3 weeks before test, although I know many say two weeks, and extend my cycle to 5 weeks on tren A. I will stop Test E (dropped the dosage to 500/week from 900 e4d) in about two weeks, and as Roid Noid suggested, run Tren Ace until 14 days after last test pin (give or take a day-two).
Little update on my sides since I am a week in 30mg/ed. Body temp up, aggression has disappeared (very aggressive on deca usually) and for the first few days, maybe it was the placebo effect, however, I saw massive strength gains. In the future I would like to run deca/tren together, simply because I felt much stronger than just test/deca (inexperienced with Tren=Possible placebo effect) regardless, I am also experiencing joint pain now that I am off deca. I HATE joint pain (reminds me of amazing winstrol).
So far so good. And I feel the invincible feeling everyone is speaking of. Problem is my girl has been PMS'ing lately, and is always on edge. Seems like I'm always calming her down now. Again no proof this is directly related to tren, but I feel constant energy and dont mind being out and about. I really like tren "so far"
Will keep you updated
for me 30 is the max I can take with absolutely no sides, once you pass the no sides dose it will change, very few do better, most do worse. she could end up with you acting like your PMSing for the duration of the cycle!
Thank you for the advice Roid, I really appreciate it! I have slight headaches throughout the day, but my blood pressure is normal.
I'd drop the test dose down and increase the tren to 50mg ed or eod for your first run on it.
I find the sides on high test/low tren are hard on you.
I don't go higher than 400mg test a week on tren, usually between 200-300mg most cycles.
See how you get on then, it'll certainly finish the cycle nicely. I've used similar cycles with great results.
Thanks man, I really appreciate your advice! I actually did my first jab of Frankie's tren A today. I'm going to drop my test and deca doses, and do approximately 25mg Ed of tren. I am surely doing test/deca with tren. I will drop the deca within the next week or two and finish the cycle with tren and as roid noid suggested run it after my last test E injection most likely with no prop. I want to keep the tren dosage below 200mg, but I will see how my body reacts to it. My dosages currently are exactly 900/600 e4d and 25mg daily. I don't have any issues with deca sides. I've been wanting to do a deca/tren stack.
I wanted to add, I'm 14 weeks in, and originally planned for a 18-20week cycle. I don't recommend long cycles for everyone, however, I see major changes with short estered around 8-10 weeks, and long estered 12-14. This is why I insisted on possibly throwing tren in the mix, but I may do mast prop instead to lean out and harden my gains. I will see.
to answer your question...I say if you have been cycling for some time and experienced most compounds then run it! The last four weeks is perfect time to run it, it will lean you out a little, give you a chance to feel the tren effects and sides. And in my opinion it is always best to run it at the end of a cycle simply cause psychologically its hard to go from a strong compound to something inferior. As for the prop bit I dont think it is gonna make that much difference in drying you up, it will however play a role in test/tren sides because your levels wont be stable. I would run the test-e/c till 14 as planned, throw in the tren at week 10 and run it to week 15 1/2(this is tren-a I hope). Theres nothing wrong with running the tren for a week and a half after last test pin. As for doseage 25mg/d is a good place to start....Now to what I would recommend, contiue this cycle as you have it with the test and deca and add in 500mg/w of mast-p and run that till week 15 1/2. You are getting the best results of that deca right now and I wouldnt change that, cut the sodium, drink more water.
Thanks Roid Noid for the detailed response, it was very helpful. I may just go the mast P route and save the tren for later. I'll let you guys know what I do!
Already on deca......not good imo. Is cycle posted for easier reading?
Nevermind.....saw the don't worry bout prolactin. Tren can finish/dry you.
If you're worried about being a bit puffy, u can always adjust your diet and water intake to compensate. Never good to fly by the seat of your pants mid cycle bro. Stick with the plan, and maybe make a game plan for your next cycle to include some Tren.
im a little confused here. how long will the total cycle be? and youve never run tren before right? im pretty sure you can see results from tren ace in 4 weeks but do you really need it? if this is your first time running a cycle this long your body is going to go through the longest recovery period as well. do you really want to add something as strong as tren, something you have no prior experience with, into the recovery? plus, you already had a set plan. no need to change it. imo, id shelf the tren til next time.
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