posted Fri, 09/07/2012 - 03:25
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+ 2 Var to Test E cycle????
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Age 57
height 6'7"
weight 260 lbs
BF about 11%
week 1-12 250 mg's test e every 4th day
week 1-12 500 iu's hcg 2x week
20 mg's nolva ed
25 mg's proviron ed
will run clomid for pct 2wks after last inj.
Prior to beginning cycle weight was 250 lbs. I've been running cycle now for 6 weeks and was thinking of adding 40mg's var. Is it to late to start the var??? If so, should i extend cycle to 16 wks.
I haven't really experienced any sides yet. Except for tightening in back on both sides when stretching. This is my 4th cycle. Have run Test w/ Deca and also EQ. I've attached an Aug. 30th photo 4th week into cycle.. All comments are welcomed...
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AnonThanks man, I appreciate that. Will do...
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonDecided to order AI ( aromasin ) and add to cycle. Should have by next week and they are in 12.5mg tabs. What would the correct dosage be after 7 weeks into cycle? No signs of gyno yet....
zewi12.5mg EOD.. since no sings--nipples get sore or itchy 12.5mg ED.
Anonwill definitely consider HRT. I have ordered HGH prior to cycle and still waiting on it. will take everything into consideration and check out stickies. laid out the stats so u wouldn't have to ask. thanks again
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinktread-mFeel free to talk with me about hgh uality too bud, I've been through most of it and the only 2 I trust as of today are true rips and hygetropin.com.cn. the hyge btw will straight up cripple you without good protocol in staircase so I'm mackin it pretty hard...impressed with all bloods given we can't all afford Eli Lilly ! Lol. Glad to talk inPM about any of it. Btw, gh takes your cycle as to test next level. The axis having the job of balancing test/gh allows you to capitalize on your testg in a much better way. Holla if needed!
Anonnice to see all the love permeating throughout this forum.
tread-mGives me a warm fuzzy feeling down in my no homo zone : )
nice to have a sweet thread.. nearly forgot the +3 for your fantastic post bro..there you go
tread-mYou had me at nice ;;;; * no homo
You still own this cycles jungle brother..no man will tell me otherwise
tread-mAlrright I read the below and agree, you need aromasin and what is mentioned is "you are having no issues right now". Well actually that could say, "you are having no issues right now that you know of". I would like you to go the the general section and look up top to the stickies. I did a write on this subject and its title I believe is "test and estrogen" will have to go look. At any rate, if estrogen is up, lets say even up just around 100, you have also increased SHBG. Sex hormone binding globulan has one job in life and that is to bind and save test. What its saving it for I have no idea but what that means is you are not mximizing the cycle. so yes, you likely are having issue you just don't know it. Of course many other issues if you will go have some deep reading on estrogen spike because as estro spikes it brings a lot of other nasty things up with it and those things have great long term impact on not just your cycle but your health in general.
Alright next place I go is the impotance of prostate health and gear. prostate health is something we have to be aware of at any age with or without gear but certainly at your age and then cetainlyy on top of the standard gear we have a pure DHT in the mix here. So I am hoping you are using a saw pallmetto or a superbeta prostate or maybe you run finisterad etc? Along with the prevent protection its a great idea to drink a ton of water and limit salt of course being the binder.
Alright so with those thoughts and health additions in mind I think I like z's roll but being the resident trt advocate I have to ask, why pct and not trt? If test level is high for your age then fine but I can't imagine you could pull over a 300 from natty bloods? My point would be when you do runa cycle and get the benefit the negatives that come on board to try to wipe out your benefits and hard work are 10 times greater than that 30 yr olds given his natty test. Of course the other thing that comes to mind if you follow the average mans helath decline is the very first thing to occur and set off the chain reaction of negative event s through pos/neg feedback loop is low test. So know that when test is low the feedback mechanisms are causing possibly a low propt in gh and if not its irrelevent given the axis will balance test/gh and if gh is normal you still don't have the natty test for good balance which has impact on igf-1, insulin , thyroid and that all adds up to metabolic decline and that nasty word, aging. So maybe you are that one exception and have great natty but if not I consider test/gh hrt. To insure you keep good metabolic rates for the rest of our life and continue cell reproduction in the off cycles not fighting fat gain, muscle loss and father time riding a Harley right up your ass at every turn. I will add, I went trt about 3 yrs ago and then opted hrt with gh in the mix and never looked back! I still cyel in a blast and cruise method but my world changed in a big big wayso just food for thought . Then of course we need to talk diet which is the driver of all goals...+3 for laying out stats and history without being asked , who the hell does that?!
Anonhey tread, if u don't mind me asking, at what age did u start hrt??
CleyonHere's the link to the thread you mentioned.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/estrogen-and-test
tread-mMuchass grassandass seenyora!
tread-mMuchass grassandass seenyora!
Cleyonde nada muchacha
Tres cervasa por fa vor
Wow I had no idea Vik
prefiero tres cervezas porkawhore ;)
tread-mTHATS WHAT i'm talkin bout! Ans tres hookerinos muey likey too!
Ola! baby!... tres or quattro muey likey..:)
Butchers! Y'all are pure butchers I tell u:-) lmao!
Hahahah for a pure irishman i dont think thats three bad lol
Not bad at all:-)
cdaddy7I know I started to feel like I was in Mexico and order some mexican test to go with the hookers and beer
Bro I'm a Mexy and I wouldn't touch that Mexican piss!! Put the test down and walk away very slowly!
cdaddy7Where were u back in the day when we knew no better and would go over the border for it LOL
cdaddy7Your so wise Master Tread, I truly love to come behind (no homo) and read your wisdom bc I learn something everytime. Esp with TRT topics
AnonThanks Cdaddy, you're right. I've been doing the nolva w/ previous cycles and never experienced any gyno which i understand is what the AI's are for. The nolva keeps the estrogen from binding to breast receptor. Yes I should probably have some on hand. I will for next cycle JIC. I was planning on running my pct exactly like Zewi mapped it out. I'm also using milk thistle throughout my cycle and after. Appreciate all the feedback.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkcdaddy7Well your good to go my man. And using the nolva is playing it smart for now. And now you got a layout for next time. Glad we could help you out brother
cdaddy7I would run it on thru unless you start having signs of gyno. I think you will b fine but at the first sign of burning or itchy or lumps behind ur nipples . Sore or not I would stop the cycle and start your PCT after 15 days of last test shot. Make sure you get all your gear and ancillary up front before you start. I see your 57 so u prob were using the nolva bc that was the old school thing but research has shown it doesnt help and the AI is what u need to run to be effective in estro control. Good luck with ur cycle. Zewi mapped it out well for you below. Make sure your PCT lines up with his bc its very important in making your cycle complete and successful brother. One more thing add liver support like liv52 or milk thistle to take with the anavar to protect ur liver.
He's running hCG through weeks 1-12 - im sure you know that it has a high aromatising activity.
An AI is mandatory with hCG
cdaddy7I know but he's already half way in with no issues. He can order some AI and have it quick but I was just saying rather than just stopping his cycle at 8 weeks. Just go on thru, but remember the aromatase activity isn't high until you get over 500 ius per injection. So he's in the safety zone, but I agree with what ur saying. IMHO an AI is mandatory for any cycle with or without HCG in it
Anonthanks, but i don't have arimidex or aromasin on hand. should maybe cut cycle to 8 weeks and add to next cycle...
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou will not gain the full benefit from running a long estered compound for just 8 weeks.
I'd advise that you buy an AI from a domestic seller...
AI
Aromasin 12.5mg ed
Read (http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/fool-proof-guide-...)
zewiYou don't have an AI.. You need one.. Save the Nova for PCT it is doing nothing right now it is not blocking the estro break down from the test e.---HCG converts to estro.
Yes you can add Var
so it would look like this
1-12 Test E @ 500mg split (250 monday, 250 thursday)
7-12 Var @ 40mg ED
you need an AI--Like Arimidex or Aromasin
PCT
clomid 100/100/50/50
nova 40/40/20/20
X2
Clomid + Nolva combo for PCT, and add an AI, either adex/asin
cdaddy7How do you ass an AI? Does that mean it's shitty, P?? LOL, J/K