Var cycle
Hello I have a friend that came to me about a month ago and was asking what could he take to help him lean down some and get into shape for spring that he was about to start another round of his P90X and getting his diet in check. This guy is pretty lean and already in decent shape just wanting to take it to the next level he's never ran any type of cycle or dealt with any AAS and is not looking to add any muscle just to lean down and get more defined so I told him just to run some Var during his P90X and to really concentrate on his diet and I sent him a few posts from here on how to get ripped up for spring that had a lot of information about diets. At first I told him to run the Var during his whole P90X but I have recently read that is not good to run Var for 12 weeks so now that I have found this out I'm going to tell him to cut his Var back to eight weeks maximum.
The reason why I am making this post is because he is three weeks into the cycle and has came to me with disappointment that he has only lost 3 pounds in the first week and 1 pound in the second week and voice concerns about the Var decreasing his sex drive.
I advised him that I don't believe Var would have anything to do with decreasing his sex drive and to stick with the game plan and stop watching the scale.
His stats
Age 38
Height 6'
Weight 195
BF sub 15%
Cycle was: Week 1-4 Var 50mg Ed
Week 5-12 Var 100mg Ed if needed
But now that I have read that you should not take Var for 12 weeks i'm going to advise him to cut it back to 6 weeks & 8 weeks MAX.
Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated so thanks in advance.
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Diet!!! Healthy, balanced!! Then consider aas
Hey guys thanks for your input he has been told to stop the var but to continue on with his workouts and his diet and has been given the items for his PCT and is on his why as we speak to get bloods.
Once again thanks for your input and showing me the error of my ways. After all that's what Eroids is for I appreciate it thank you.
Oohh boy! Hopefully you realize the woes of ways from what the guys in this post have told you. He is getting shut down and now has to recover. There is no magic pill to lose weight.
You just gave him horrible advise!!! You should've known this with a simple search!!
Var is going to suppress his natty test....he is not replacing the shut down with synthetic test, which in turn will stress the hpta even more...
And high doses for 8+ wks is even more suppressive....so I'm sure a proper pct should be in place.
Come on....oral only cycles are a no go.
Hes bitching after 3wks....Why?????
Psx90 and diet will give proven results without var.....WITHIN 90 DAYS!!
What is this????!!! Another voice of good sense and reason, very good to see +2
Perfect................ +3 bro.
Right on the money TA
I tried to research the shit out of var because I don't mess with it myself so I have no personal experience but I could not find anything to wear it shut you down and I kept finding the same things over and over again that it was very mild and not known for shutting down natural production and had a very low conversion rate. It will not produce much gains but will help with the leaning out process.
But now I know I will get him going on a pct and from here on out he's going to have to do it the way I did it. trial an error and a lot of research and figure it out on his own.
you got good info mate, best quit while you can, very poor knowledge...... diet leans you out...... not var only cycles.... take my advice
boooom, level 1
what was the test dose? and what ancillaries also what is your question, var certainly will shut you down
No test everywhere I have researched I found the same thing that Var will not shut your natural test production down and on rare occasions will it ever convert to Estro but he has aromasin on hand and I told him to go get bloods done this week.
Well Flash I guess my question is have I gave this guy the right advice or have I told him wrong and if I have in fact told him wrong then I guess what is the right advice.
Thanks for your reply
The reason why people think var is mild and you can run it by itself is the fact that it won't shut you down right away/hard like some other compounds but it still shuts you down...
“Oxandrolone is no exception. In the above-cited study on HIV+ males, twelve weeks of 20 mg or 40 mg per day caused an approximate 45% reduction in serum testosterone levels. The group taking 80 mg noticed a 66% decrease in testosterone. Similar trends of decrease were noticed in LH production, with the 20 mg and 40 mg doses causing a 25-30% reduction, and the 80 mg group noticing a decline of more than 50%. Additionally,”
Excerpt From: Llewellyn, William. “Anabolics.” iBooks.
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Good info thanks my man !!
he absolutley needs test..... thats your answer, thats insane ...... var does shut you down mate... tell him to stop.
Ok. He's not ready for test I would feel comfortable giving him clomid to bump up his natural production but he's not ready to start pinning. So I guess he stopping and I'll tell him to take some clomid and Al's for a few weeks and get some more bloods.
Thanks
tell him to run a mild pct ... 3 weeks... clomid 50.50.50 nolva. 40.20.20.... that would be fine for 3 weeks of var.
Ok thanks