posted Tue, 02/12/2013 - 16:19
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Tren and Winn
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I was thinking about running tren and Winn in a 8 week cycle. What's a good dosage amount and is it ok to run in the same pin or should I break it up?
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Cool thanks bro
Awesome! Thanks for the advice. I'll skip the tren. Besides test what what be another good one to jump into for a beginner? And how much?
You could throw in test prop the first 4 weeks of a test e or c cycle. Or do an oral kicker Dbol or Tbol. Go to groups section and find begginers cycle and join the group, you should find what you need there. Good luck bro!
Tren is for seasoned cyclers. If you reseach you'll find a ton of post from people just like you that took the plunge into tren to early and regret it hororably. There is just so many things that can go wrong during a tren cycle and if you haven't had enough prior experience with other milder compounds as in learning the sides then you may have major problems when you don't know how to treat the symptoms. Simply put tren is a 19 nor and elevates prolactin which can cause your nipples to leak milk, cause you dick to go limp, and shut your HPTA down hard enough that you don't ever recover and end up on TRT the rest of your life. Best thing to do is run other compounds and then when you get a good handle on how your body deals with those and the sides you get, then you can throw tren in down the road.
Puffy, leaky, milk nips and limps dicks are in this year. I'm injecting 600mg of prolactin p/w, AI are for pussies.
I ran novadex after. Why is tren a bad idea to jump too? That's all I can get right now
A good analogy for your jump to tren would be like trying to swim across the Atlantic ocean even though you just got your water wings off last week. It's a whole new ball game with its own set of rules. Get the basic stuff down first. Read read and read. Get yourself family with every aspect you can regarding estro sides, AI's, pct ect. Those are the bare essentials you'll need to know to run even the most basic of cycles successfully. The last thing you want is to do something wrong and end up on trt for the rest of your life like a dumb ass, me :-)
Well put.
I'll put this to you from personal experience. Tren cycles can be messy, filled with insomnia and lack of ability to do any cardio. At your stage you can achieve solid gains from nice simple cycles that you'll actually enjoy your sense of well being on. When things go wrong on tren (side effects etc), they go wrong in a big way. It's kind of like using heroin when smoking a joint would do the job!
I've done this in excess of 10 years, and l enjoy every cycle I run much more than those containing tren! Wait until you've done 8-10 cycles, then you'll have the experience to know how to fix things if / when they go wrong.
Good luck.
Time for some of you other guys to step up! Explain this to him,...nicely
Age, stats, cycle history, and we'll go from there brother.
26 5'11" 200 I took a 6 week cycle of test 400 about a year ago and that's it.
Skip the tren for sure. Depending on what your goals are, I'd recommend EQ as a second compound IF you insist on adding one. In fact, no matter your goals as EQ is great for cutting , bulking and recomp.
You did well using test only for your first cycle. You really need to do the same this time as well. What did you use for your AI and did you run any pct after your first cycle?
He should run test ONLY again for cycle 2. Just higher doses.
Isn't that what I said? You picking a fight bromo? It's on.
Always lookin for a fight! It's just hard to find worthy opponents! You'll do.
Ha. I'm too sleepy to wrestle right now. Wait until after my Zumba class. Then I'll be ready.
and you wanna jump on tren? bad idea bro
What do you mean? I'm new to the site trying to get familiarized with everything. How can I get some advice?
And no test base???!??!???!??
just became a member today...and you have no stats, or history of compounds/cycles past.
SO...NO ADVICE WITHOUT THIS