posted Sat, 05/13/2017 - 15:02
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I am 6'5" 300lbs 32 years old. Have been training for a while and am dabbling with the idea of doing a cycle. Would like to get the advise from more experienced people in this area.
Week 1-14 test cyp 500mg once a week
Week 1-10 deca 300mg once a week
armidex .25 every other day until after 2 weeks of last shot of test
PCT 2 weeks after last shot
week 1 clomid 100mg ed nolva 40mg day
week 2 clomid 50mg ed nolva 20mg ed
week 3 clomid 50mg ed nolva 20 mg ed
thanks in advanced for any tips or advice
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You have been here longer than even my old account and I have always known you to be a stand up member in the community. We're lucky to have members like you and you know the other guys here also that were lucky to have.
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thanks bud appreciate it
If your body fat is 25% bud you really need to just focus on nutrition and find a diet that works for you. Once you get that dialed in I would suggest coming back to AAS. Good luck
but i do appreciate your opinion thanks
diet is dialed in and so is training. as you can see i said i have lost 100 lbs over the last year or so. so lets stick to the topic of the cycle not what i am eating. thanks
You want advice right? That's why you came here? Well you're going to get it, sorry of you don't deem it "sticking to the topic."
The fact is, you need to drop a serious percentage more of body fat before you even consider steroids. You don't need steroids to lose weight. When you use steroids and you're already so over weight, you're placing serious stress on your vessels and heart.
I came here for advice on if I have everything properly set up as far the test and pct dosages not about the risks. I know the risks. everybody has them mine might be higher because of my higher bf% But you have risks as well I dont need to be told how over weight I am lol not trying to be a dick And I never said I wanted to do a cycle to lose weight. But thanks for your input
I'm honestly not trying to be a dick bro. And congrats for losing all that weight.. I just think you would be making a mistake if you started a cycle now especially this one. You peeled 100 lbs off to use test and deca? That's just going to take away what you've been working so hard for. The higher the body fat the more pressure gets pushed to your veins and arteries which causes high BP toss test and deca on that and you're a walking risk. I would advise again a cycle until you get below 15% like what rusty said. Just my .02 though
I appreciate the advise
Great advice, Goose. +2
This can potentially lead to renal issues and Nandrolones also can contribute to kidney issues.
RustyhookerHe's right though bro. You're already on the right track WITHOUT roids. Higher bf leads to estro troubles which then jacks on more bf.
Vicious circle.
Try to hit 15 and come back. More than happy to help.
ok cool that was my first choice to do hgh and test but run the hgh for like a year but for some reason i talked myself out of it for a minute. probably because hgh is really exspensive lol how should I run it. start at 2iu every day and work up from there or someone told me to do 4 iu for 3 days then take 2 days off. what are your thought?
Rusty hooker. Get in here. Miss chatting with you. I haven't been very active on here the last few months.
RustyhookerIve been laying fairly low as well. How you? It's been hectic here. Hoping for a june start. See how the year goes. Lol
Where have you been
Its Bigmurph
Been going through it man. Divorce, car wreck, still recovering from when my apt was broken into about a year ago. Between all that shit, work, gym, living at the beach and tinder I haven't had much time to do shit else.
Im glad to hear that you are doing ok I guess. Are you slaying pussy on tinder thats always a good thing
How have you been? Shoot me a pm bro. Well chat through there. I wish I was slating
Some pussy. I'm getting older so it's not as easy as the old days days. 27 years old has been a rough year. lol. Still get lucky about once a week though, so I can't complain too much. Hit me up man!
Thank you. Ok dropping the deca sounds good. Any thoughts on adding 2-4iu of hgh a day?
I'm a huge hgh fan so I would say go for it. You want to make sure you can afford enough to run atleast 6 months to see the try benefits. I ran anywhere from 2-8 Iu of hgh for almost a year. 2-3.33 during off time and then 6-8 iu during cycle time. Best I had ever felt in my life and the best shape I was ever in. Slept like a baby, great energy through the day, lost body fat, and skin looked and felt amazing. If I had a choice, and could afford it, I would run hgh for the rest of my life.
ok cool that was my first choice to do hgh and test but run the hgh for like a year but for some reason i talked myself out of it for a minute. probably because hgh is really exspensive lol how should I run it. start at 2iu every day and work up from there or someone told me to do 4 iu for 3 days then take 2 days off. what are your thought?
I'm not a fan of the "off" days with hgh. For me, I started at 2 iu and ran that for several weeks to see the sides. I did have some in fact. Retaining water and what they call "carpal tunnel syndrome" like effects. It was later found out that the batch of hgh I was running was actually dosed in correctly and was about 15iu per 10iu vial. That's what you get with generics though. I wasn't too upset however... I would def work on the bf man. These guys here all mean well. I had my "fueds" with a few before but looking back they were only meaning well. In a perfect world, it would be best to wait until you get down a little bit on the bf but I'm of the impatient class myself so I understand where your coming from.
ok thanks. I know most mean well but
bf% is 25
Before cycle I would try to get the bf as low as possible.
Yeah that is what I have been reading to just have them on hand or take a small dose eod or e3d. I have lost over 100lbs in the past year but still have some belly fat so I didnt want to risk getting gyno because what i read I would be more prone to it.
Bf%? Cycle doesn't look bad too me. If it's your first cycle, the only thing I would say is just to run test. First cycle you want to see how your body reacts to things so complicating it with extra chemicals can cause issues.
Armodex I would def keep on hand but if your not having issues, then I would just hold off on taking them until estrogen becomes an issue. Bloods will be the true tell all.
Also going to say drop the deca. I would hold off entirely until you are in the mid teens or low 10's body fat first.
x2. drop the deca. always run test only first cycle. If you have negative side you won't know what's causing them. You don't mention caber, so you probably are not aware of deca related sides with prolactin and you should have arimadex on hand incase of estrogen related sides but if you don't need it don't take it (bloods will tell) don't want to crash estro!. Also, need to get baseline bloods done first.