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Test, var , primo, and mast cycle ?????

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Hey what's up I'm new to this world and had a question I been reading a lot and talking to others that's been taking stuff for quit a while and I started a stack my self .
My stack:
Week 1-??Test e -500mg a week -I have plenty test e and prop
Week1-8 Primobolan - 400mg a week
Week1-7 -anavar tabs 50mg Ed

Now here is my question I'm hitting week 7 near the end and about to finish anavar and primo and I was gonna back the primo with masteron ...... And stay on the test , but now that the anavar is ending should I run clo or nolvadex for pct and stay on the test and mast until end cause I was thinking of running the masteron 8-10 weeks with prop eod but now should I just jump right into it cause I was reading saying primo and or mast u need to run for atleast 14 weeks so I didn't wanna break I between but I know the var is not good to run past 8weeks ?????

Any suggestions will help thanks

fast48's picture

For pct...i like the gs//cdaddy/zewi idea. Forump...pct
Clomid 100...100...50...50. This is the daily dose for 4wks. Clomid makes balls work
Nolva 20...20...10...10. Nolva blocks estrogen at the nipple area etc
Aromasin...12.5....12.5....6.75...6.75. Aro stops the estro in the body and raises IGF

Using aromasin as ai during cycle helps control estro, keeps water bloat down, and raises IGF.. ALWAYS have ai on cycle as needed. For your cycle 6.75ed might be enough. If nips get sensitive 12.5ed.

If you dont choose the above pct....this is the standard pct
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 40...40...20..20

PCT STARTS TWO DAYS AFTER YOUR LAST SHOTS. Just putting caps because its important...not hollering. Lol

logan's picture

STATS? First Cycle? You are all over the place with this cycle 8 weeks of primo (bad idea) Run pct in the middle of cycle it looks like (bad idea). Seeing that you have done the damage, primo is ran for 12-16 weeks, it is just really kicking in 8. Second Test is way to high for primo var masteron cylce. If I was to put this cycle together this would be mine.
Week 1-16 test e 250mg/week
Week 1-14 primo 400-600mg/week
Week 7-14 masteron e 400mg/week
Week 7-14 Var 75mg/day.
taper with prop for 2 weeks then pct.
IMO this would yield ridiculous results as I have done it myself many times provided bf% is right and diet and training is on.

Dedication.motivation's picture

K and with the cycle I have been on now and about to jump on test/mast cause I'm just finishing a 8 weeks of var/test e / primo
Now how would u recommend approaching that or did fast48 do a Good job below at coaching me on that .?!?

The ramianing product I have is
30-ml of test prop 150
40 -ml of mast prop 150
15 ml of test e 250

logan's picture

Fast knows his shit he said it all.

Dedication.motivation's picture

Thanks good lookin out !!! Props to fast48

fast48's picture

When you try primo again....Logan knows his shit. I pick his brain often. Fr him...

Dedication.motivation's picture

Well about rotation and pinning much ill do what I have to ill have to get 25x1 I got 23x1.5 ill just use them and not go deep in shoulders or thigh ...but yeh I will get some pictures up I don't have Ny at the moment and yeh. So week-9-12 do prop and mast ? And then run pct .. And also yes I do understand the test vs the mast. Prop situation Would a good dose be

150 mg test prop eod
200mg mast prop eod or is that high and I stick with

100mg test
150 mg mast ...

fast48's picture

You can get away with either. Halflife is 48hrs and its dead. Its if you can rotate enough to do 3.5 cc eod. The lowet is effective and better imo.

Dedication.motivation's picture

3.5 cc eod meaning how much of each ? and also rotate it 2 diff injection points each day also to get 3.5cc in with no risk any issues?

fast48's picture

Id stick with 150mast/100prop. Easier and learn rotation without tons of oil. Next cycle we can dial it in fully

Dedication.motivation's picture

I still got few weeks of test e left prob like 3 1/2 weeks more and ur saying so take just test for 2-weeks then run the prop with mast for 2-weeks and then pct ??? And will the mast. Show in 2 weeks even though I assume its a prop so it will kick in quick !??? Cause I have 10 weeks of mast and prop but that just means ill have extra for a future 8 week cycle

fast48's picture

You postted that you're lean and mast prop does work fairly quick. It wont be a miracle but last summer i had similar goof BUT since i was below 10% and busting hard with food and gym i cut up. The hard part is wheter or not your prop has pip. I had a sweet no pip prop and pinned like it was a fashion. Right now im on a prop with punch and ya just gotta man up. Lol.

If you're up to pin rotations and have lits of 25 x 1 then end the test e at week 9 and roll 3 Weeks as posted below. I do love mast! Cardio after gym. Keep protein high and post a pic if you're shredded.

fast48's picture

And so ya understand....test is lower than mast. Mast is a great chisler/hardener. Test will hold that subq water. So running the mast slightly higher lets it do its job while there's enough test to still be a stud.

Pct is very important to keep the gains

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Dedication.motivation's picture

Stats are 190lbs 11%body fat 5'6" and I'm 24 yrs old

That's how someone was telling me to run it and I regret no posting earlier but as far as now. My body has no signs of gyno and estrogen , and for pct I was thinking clomid for pct or nolvadex but not sure
But as far as me now I have test prop left 150mg I have 40 ml left and I hve masteron prop 40 ml also. And I'm just comming off anavar and primobolan and I was thinking of backing that stack with the mast/test and running it for 10 weeks ? But as far as a pct or anything should I run that since I about to finish vAr and primo ? And I mean I guess I might have wasted but with the results I got from it in 8 weeks wasn't to bad the cuts And tightening of the skin and abdomen area also came out nice for a low cardio and Abb work out ..
But what would be best to finish off the stuff I got ?

Masteron prop 150mg 40ml
Test prop 150 mg 40 ml

fast48's picture

Ok....week 7 and above cycle shows cutter. Do you have test e left? Or just prop?
If test e....run test e til week 10 then use prop/mast as listed below til week 12 then pct is clomid/nolva stack OR lose all youe gains! Pm me if you need source!
Clomid 100...100..50..50
Nolva 40...40...20...20....that'd the daily dose per week for 4 Weeks.

Mast 150eod
Prop 100eod

Dont go past 12 Weeks! Pct is 2 days after last prop shot. ROTATE ALL 6 PIN SITES or rish abscess

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Good luck with this one brother i hate it when they are so far into a cycle,pointless me bringing anything into this it is a classic one/one basis so he dont get all confused....

I ASK OTHER MEMBERS TO LEAVE THIS THREAD ALONE FOR THAT REASON... RESPECT TO FAST FOR TAKING THIS ONE ONBOARD.. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT BRO.

fast48's picture

Late time changes can be impossible. If he can handle short ester pins...might pull through. Pinning shorts gets tiring. Lol

Thanks Big Bro!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

No probs man,, i suggest take him in PM bro then he just hears you... zero confusion = results Smile

fast48's picture

Friend request sent Smile

fast48's picture

Sure wish you had posted this cycle before because its hugely wrong in how youre running it and with the cost of primo e, its kinda late. Primo is a finisher before stage bbuilding contests. Proper soses is for under 10% bodyfat and

1-16 test e 250....thats it!
1-16 Primo e 600 split

Stats???? Hows your ai and PCT?????

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