+ 1 Test-Primo- Var - Thoughts, opinions welcome
30 Yrs old
6' tall
225lbs
BF aprox 10%
This will be my second cycle this year, before this one I ran Test, EQ, and Primo at relatively low doses (400,400, 600).
Prior to that I've been off for many years.
Looking to run this one late Sept. or October and depending on my blood work results prior to cycle may or may not become a blast and cruiser so PCT may not be necessary though hopefully it will be! ...
Wk 1-16: Test E 250
Wk 1-16: Primo 600
Wk 12-16: Var 80mg/Day
(aromisin on hand just in case)
PCT 18 days from last injection
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Not looking to blow up, just looking for slow steady gains in strength and size. I may arrange my training and diet as such to progress so that I'll be in "contest" shape around weeks 10-11. Would like to reach a new personal best, physique wise and in all the big lifts.
Current lifts:
Squat: 505
Bench: 315
DL: 565
Diet:
I eat mostly organic. We get raw milk and grass fed animal meat, wild salmon, good eggs, tropical oils, etc. So typically my diet is very high fat, high Omega and CLA rich with plenty of veggies. I will reduce the fat intake on this cycle and be more intentional to get back to a more 30/30/40 Ratio of carbs, protein/fat.
Workouts:
Week 1-6
Mon or Tues- Chest& Back
Wed - Legs
Fri - Shoulders & Arms
Week 6-8
Day 1: Am- Chest
PM- Back
Day 2: Am - Shoulders
PM - Arms
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: Repeat taking 2 days off after leg day
Week 8-12
Day 1: superset Chest & Back
Day 2: Am -Shoulders
PM- Superset Bi & Tri's
Day 3: Supersets Legs
Day 4: Rest
Day 5 Repeat
Cardio 2x a week
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I have ran primo for the past 15 summers. I have played with dosages and dosages from other aas. I hate to disagree with fast but primo could be ran as short as 12 weeks. It takes 5 weeks to really kick in and by week 8 you are fully in it. 16 weeks is great because you get to really enjoy the effects but 12 weeks is really minimum. Also drop the test to 250 a week, it's only there to keep the boys happy. Even with arimadex and 500mg of test the results are not the same. I know because I have tried it. I have found 600mg is perfect, the jump from 400mg to 600mg is HUGE but from 600mg to 800mg isn't that much more. Personally I think you are just throwing money away. You will be very happy at 600mg.This is what I do(200 test/w 600mg primo/w)16 weeks and 100mg var/d the var for 6 weeks. These results are amazing and I even throw in some masteron E or winstrol into the mix to get a sick look. My favorite saying when using these compounds together is "Even the gods would be envious of you."
High five! Yup yup....high primo low test.
I am a primo junkie if I could run it 365 days a year I would. I would love to run it even winter but just to expensive. Who knows maybe my lucky numbers will come out in the lottery and make my dream come true. Most people want Ferrari's or a huge house I want my primo.LOL
I want to run it but its just so expensive. I see a few good reps with high dose primo but even running 12 with var/mast....bammo. But maybe this January i can run prop and primo acetate. Short 8weeker? First though i gotta keep hitting it hard to recover damn elbow losses. Lol
I have tried numerous sources on here will give my insight on them just pm'ed you
Thank you bro!
Anytime
zewithats right.. I need to fill my closet up with my favorite gear...lol
Row of HGH, primo,tren a & e,test e and p,mast A & E,dbol-liquid,anvar-liquid,eq.. and ill be good to go..
High five! I'm trying to get lil here n there for any ideas. If i come out at 205cut then next cycles can be eadier maintenance runs. Start looking at short Esters.
How is primo unicorn blood? ive never used it but I have 20mls of it. I was going to save it and use it during my pre contest cycle but ive heard it amplifies test? Not trying to jack but unicorn blood makes it sound like its amazing and if i can use it in my 20 week cycle im game!
Everyone that ran it precontest is very loud about it being the pinacle finishing compound. But precontest you're looking at 250test/600 primo for 16Weeks. Viking and Sgt are two pros worth chatting with for primo help. Definitly smart guys.
Brother at 600mg/w for 12-14 weeks you will not be disappointed. Will proper pct and diet you will retain 90% of your gains.
Yea thats what I like about primo - Could you help me though, I'm not sure why lower test would produce better results... And are you saying the difference between 600 and 800mg of primo a week is just not enough to off set the cost or useless all together? Sort of like how taking 1000mg of test vs 1250 a week really won't do anything? Your body can only use so much right..?
Thanks bro appreciate the feedback
Yea thats what I like about primo - Could you help me though, I'm not sure why lower test would produce better results... And are you saying the difference between 600 and 800mg of primo a week is just not enough to off set the cost or useless all together? Sort of like how taking 1000mg of test vs 1250 a week really won't do anything? Your body can only use so much right..?
Thanks bro appreciate the feedback
Fast is right about the test, and yes to the second question I feel the jump to 800 just isn't that dramatic for the cost.
sweet, thanks guys for the help - that was super helpful.
Primo is a cycle for contest sharp cuts. Low test allows you to still be horney/sexual during cycle because primo will shut you down. Also, high test gets the normal test bloat/puffiness. So going with a 250\600 gives you your sex but the primos actions rule that cycle. He has much more experience but that's why/how. Been studying the Hell outta it too so i get it done right.
Food....always the tough one.
Diet always makes the difference but on primo even a low calorie diet works great.
zewiits game and perfect for a 20 weaker.
Primo is a minimum 16week run. If you're simply looking for a lil mass with efinition you're sure going the expensive rout and not even getting everything out of the primo. Second cycle this year? How many priors? Low conservative doses arefine but not if you're mismatching goals and gear.
Please update....
Hey Fast,
I've done a number of cycles in in my early 20's - probably 3-4, mostly pyramiding doses of sust, or test all with poor PCT administration. As sloppy as my cycles then (in my arrogance and ignorance of thinking I knew what I was doing) I didn't use high doses so never had the experience of blowing up and than loosing gains and shrinking down so I'm at least grateful for that.
So I can push it to 14 weeks possible 16 thats fine I don't see any harm in that but I'm not sure I understand why the Test should be so Low in relation to the primo.... Is 250 Test and 600 Primo over 16weeks gonna produce weight gain?
My goals are I want to use compounds with low side affects that will not produce dramatic results, but steady gains over the course of the cycle.
zewii saw 16.. maybe it was just me.. lol.. good catch.. all these numbers sometimes. fast on the backup..
You got mad skills! , teamwork :). Need his goals though because if its add on bout 8-10 and look Hella sharp low test/high primo. Keeps sex going but let primo do its job. 250/600. If hes not competing and wants 12 Weeks n look good then test/mast/var. Id Live to run primo but to do it right for the cost it really has to be done right. It's too golden to waste. Lol!
Primo is unicorn blood.
zewiGood stuff i like it. Fast has your back.
Teamwork bro. Youve schooled hundreds in last few Weeks. Mad props!
cdaddy7Nice job on the layout u def did ur homework+1 from me and splitting that var like uncle zewi suggested
zewiI like it. +1
Split the var during they day. half half.. If its liquid i usually do 20,20,20--for me i do 60mg of var a day.