+ 1 8 Weeks in, no real gains.
30 yrs old
10% bf (See pre-cycle pic)
6'1" 235lbs
Been TRT for a few years with 1-2 blasts a year. (went off for a few months before this cycle to clear receptors and what not)
Currently in week 8 of Test 500/week Deca 375/week Aromasin 12.5 ED
Diet - 4,500-5,000 Calories a day every so often I up to 6,000 for a day (always at least 300g protein)
So far 8 weeks and only 10lbs. Some strength gains, but nothing crazy. Other than the big sex drive I don't really feel much different than when off.
Training for strength and hyp. 3days on 1-2 off depending on soreness. Repeat cycle.
once a week I do low rep power work on one of the 3 lifts in addition to volume sets, otherwise its all 8-15 rep range.
Test E I got on RX from Dr. at Hospital and Deca is ****** I got from local pharmacy and was verified online.
Pumps are great, I get excited about my workouts on my days off. Training is intense, fairly high volume (usually 12-15 working sets per BP). I'm even managing to do some light cardio 1x every week. Sleep is not great 7-8hrs a night.
I've had 2 colds during this cycle which slowed me down for a week each.
any thoughts on why I'm not seeing more gains? just poor genetics? receptors fried?
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You are training for strength .... although high volume high reps ..??
strength training does not equate with larger ....
not every cycle is going to add a ton of mass.. not every compound is going to do a whole lot for you.
you've been sick which adds stress to the system ...
aromasin is ED ? could be your estro isn't at an optimal level for more gains
what exactly were you expecting especially considering test/deca often takes a long as 5 weeks to hit peak levels so in reality you've only been training at three weeks with peak levels not to mention you crashed everything by coming off trt prior to the cycle ...
I've been following a power-building type program. Works out to 1.5 days a week where I'm doing a maximal effort workout 5-3 rep range for 3-4 sets on one of the 3 lifts. I include volume on those days too after that. Also, 50% 1RM light speed work about 1.5x a week too on the lifts I'm not going heavy on.
I think your right though, being sick is a huge factor. And perhaps the final 4 weeks will open up for some more gains.. My estro just came back at 80, I have no sides and feel great should I up the Aromasin?
RustyhookerSome folks split the aro half am...half pm. It's suicidal but has short half life.
Labs posted... Thoughts?
https://www.eroids.com/pics/10-weeks-in-testdeca
RustyhookerErase the brand names before you lose karma or get banned!
Only bloods can tell you. 10 lbs past max potential is good. But bloods needed. Crashed estro? Who knows without testing...
12.5mgs of aromasin a day is alot for that dose of test, get bloods done too make sure you havent crashed estro, also no caber for deca? its a moderate dose, but get bloods and check that also.
Check out latest bloods, I don't respond well to Aromasin apparently. At 12.5 I still run a bit high, though no sides which is weird. That or it's in my blood but not binding?
Id say you have made gains...10lbs while taking AI reducing water retention. You mention intense workouts and pumps...strength up, but not ridiculous. Id agree with below that food intake at your weight and being sick has slowed down the gains a bit. Not all cycles bring gains like the first.
Bloods will tell the story, but until those results come in, up the calories and protein...continue the intense workouts and I think the gains will catch up. I didnt see significant gains from my current cycle til week 7 or so on testE aside from the initial DBol gains on the front end. Patience Jedi.
good perspective, good reminder thank you.
Had any blood work done?
I'm due for one this upcoming week. I will post the results.
First question I thought when reading.
It could be a few things.
At your height and weight anything under 5000 cals is not going to cut it.
Your gains get less as you go. If we put on 20 lbs every year like we did as a newbie we all be over 300 lbs
Cycle is short for Deca. You got off just when it was getting good.
I'm sure 2 colds didn't help
Cycle still on, Got at least 4 more weeks.