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Test, EQ & Winny (oral 50mg)

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This is a new cycle that was recommended to me. I've done a lot of research but everyone has a different opinion with no explanation.

So here is my question.

  1. Test e, Test C or Test p…. which would be best with this cycle and why.

  2. Should I do the winy the entire cycle or simply at the end of the cycle

  3. I know I should do Nolvadex at the end but should I do anything during the cycle to keep bloat down or anything else to minimize any unwanted sides.

I guess the easiest question is simply what would be the best way to stack this.

I was thinking

500mg EQ week weeks 1-12
500mg Test (not sure which one) per week.. weeks 1-12
1 tab of winny ED. Weeks 7-12

Please tell me a good PCT. I truly have done a lot of research but it all starts getting confusing with so much info.

SwaySway's picture

Hey Budda.. Just throwing my 2cents...

Don't touch Winny till your under 15% BF imo.. adjust your diet if you've hit wall.. cals in vs. Cals out is simple math so there should be a way...

EQ is for density and vascularity.. I also wouldnt touch it until I was at the 15% BF marker.. I love EQ but its a slow acting drug and, for me, its best for a 16 week cycle... with that in mind put it in the stash and save it for future cycles...

IMO Run Test E, C or Sust pinning E3D for 12weeks, take Before, mid and after pics and keep your diet in check.. you can search Eroids for meal plans.

As far as PCT you can search Eroids for that also and easily find standard PCT protocol. Start with Nova/clomid and you should be fine.

buddha73's picture

Thank you, finally some simple answers to a simple question. Much appreciated.

SwaySway's picture

No prob! The Eroid fam get nicer the more time you put in on the site.

buddha73's picture

Well to address that. I was first told do 4 weeks at the beginning the last 4 weeks. Thru my research it said only do the last 4-5 weeks because of the effects on the liver. Then I read an article that said do winny the entire 16 weeks just do smaller doses. like I said their are a thousand different opinions.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

@20% BF (IMO) get down with diet and training and research more before you commit... and then a straight test cycle is the way to roll

ape1nope's picture

You HAVE NOT done your research if you don't know the difference between test ester,

-Test cyp and e are the ones you want to use as they are long esters.
-I'd up the EQ to something above 600mg/week, anything lower and you won't notice it.
-Break the winny up to the beginning and end of the cycle @ four weeks. Since its an oral, you want to give your liver a break.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

this guy shouldn't be doing anything more than straight test (after he shaves some BF)

buddha73's picture

I started at 38% BF and I got down to 20% in 7 months with nothing more than diet and working out but I hit a plateau and have been stuck here for almost 4 months.

buddha73's picture

I have done research, Ive read over 400 different articles and everyone says something different. I know the difference between esters just wasn't sure which one to use with this particular cycle. I came here to ask question in hopes of getting a straight answer. Research is fine and all but it's much easier to just get a straight answer and learn that way. You are right I have a ton to learn but you have to start somewhere.

ape1nope's picture

And cut the Pussy Cat Treatment, just drop everything but the test and cruise at a TRT dose.

But seriously, go read more. You have so much more to learn.

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