posted Tue, 11/29/2011 - 15:08
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Test E VS Test P
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About to run my first cycle and im just trying to figure out what the hell the difference is except the amount of pins due to the ester, inform me please, which has better rep, better gains in mass and strength and better at cuttin some fat, also ive got anastrazole how should i use if i need it, and nolva for pct what doses thanks guys
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i use test prop for my first 2-3 weeks 50mg to 100 eod...and dbol 30-40mg for 4 weeks...yes the pip will hurt..try to avoid the quads with prop..or u might crawl around the house...lol....but week 1-12 use 2 shits of your test e..a total of 500mg...this way the prop works very quickly lifespan is 2 days..remember the shorter the ester the more pip youll feel...
so it would look like this
week 1-4 dbol 40mg ed
week 1-3 test prop 50-100mg eod
week1-12 test e 2 shots a week one monday and one Thursday total of 500mg
then nolva or amidx if needed then recovery clomid.......this is only my opinion brother...everyone here has good knowledge..,.reasearch and finds what suits you and good luck bro
Nasty81Nateyou say ED, but after 7 ED's, you'll be saying "wellll, maybe EOD"
lmao...i know exactly what your talking about...f that...sometimes i cant sleep it hurts so bad...and my girl punched my shoulder today and i felt like giving her a flying dropkick....lol
Nasty81NateJust run Test E 250mg twice a week (injections on Mon and Thursday), run that for 12 weeks. Stay away from the prop, because the PIP (post injection pain) can be pretty rough on your virgin muscle. Prop has to be injected ED or EOD. The anastrazole is Armidex. Thats ran at .25 eod, if and when any sides pop up. Mainly sensitive or itcy nipples is what you'll be looking for. A nolva only PCT is fine for a test only cycle. Start the nolva 3 weeks after your last shot of Test E. The Nolva is ran for 4 weeks, first 2 weeks 40mg a day, last 2 weeks 20 mg a day.
Just to give him a taste of the "Prop", why not jump start for 2 weeks or finsh for 2 weeks with Prop EOD, so he can get a feel for the difference,............we are all about education,...:-)
FrankieThats very possable and imo at the end of the cycle would be better ,this will give him time to experance any pip he may get from the enanthate and it will also break his muscle in and get them used to the solvents and hormone that may cause pip.
It will also give him time to get his injecting tech down to a T
If addinh prop do so at the last two weeks while you wait for the eneathate ester to clear
Weeks 1-12 500mgs test e each week
Weeks 10-14 150mgs test prop every other day
3 days after last prop injection he can start pct
Nasty81Natetwo weeks would be perfect..thats right about the time people start saying "this EOD shit might've been a bad idea"...lol
FrankieTotaly agree with this except dont start pct 3 weeks but 2 weeks after last injection as meationed below
Good info right there brother
Just curious nate, do you generally run your PCT 3 weeks after last injection? I always advise 2 weeks so im wondering if you got a reason behind it? Thanks!
Nasty81NateJust after Cyp and Enth...but I could have it all wrong, thats just the way I was taught. I taken no offense in being correct, getting shit wrong is the only way I learn stuff sometimes.
I think test-e is like 10.5 days and "c" is 12 days, so 2 weeks is the general concenus on protocal.
X2 it's two weeks after your last pin.
Nasty81Nategotya, I don't know why I thought 3 weeks