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Test Cyp, EQ, Dbol kicker, could use advise

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Hello, i'm fairly new to the web here seeking advise, I have two Full AAS cycles under my belt, my first one was 250mg test cyp a week and for anyone that says that isn't enough, i listened to my mentor at the time and i gained a solid amount for what it was, my second was test cyp, tren ace, and var @ 300, 75 eod, and 80 mg a day(var at week 3 through). I am 6' 2" and ended at cycle at 231 @ 11% bf and could have done more cardio if it wasn't for the tren and also more devotion. For this go around i will be adding hcg starting at week three 250mcg in the 12-14w cycle along with AI throughout and nolva until completion. I should add that i used AI previously along with nolva 1 week after last shot.

This cycle i plan on running 400mg test cyp,600mg EQ with a 30-40mg DBol a day kicker for 3-4 weeks depending on values. The cyp and EQ will be divided into two shots a week with a split such as M-TH My question is this, do you think I would benefit from more added test? I will be dropping 2-3% bf before i choose to start this cycle so Iv been upping the cardio. I currently am around 18-19% bf. Any advise on this cycle guys? I appreciate it.

So far from what i have been reading you guys seem very knowledgeable and i have much respect for all you vets out there. Thank you.

Needed to add, i plan on front loading EQ 1000mg a week before starting my regular regiment. I was told this may be benificial to get things consistent. The following week I would start everything as planned.

Squirrel's picture

I am 29, do you think that's unreasonable as far as the dosage goes? I was happy with the 300mg test I did before. It seems EQ 600mg is the low end of effective. Diet is prepped.

Weezel's picture

Now this is just my opinion, Everyone responds differently.
Firstly, how did you go from 11% to 19% when you got off? Maybe you need to re-evaluate your diet plan. I can understand a +2% increase but 8% is substantial. I wouldn't start this cycle until you have made it back to your 11%. Anyways, here are my opinions:
EQ/Test/Dbol is a great cycle. EQ is a compound that is 50/50 with people, I on the other hand, get great results with EQ. If you're going to pin 600mg a week of EQ starting on Monday and you plan to frontload EQ. I would Frontload 600mg a day for the first 3 days prior to your first 300mg Monday pin.

People for whatever reason have it in their head that more test = more gains. If your healthy and producing your normal range of test, You'll make gains of 200mg a week. Over time, as you gain more muscle, adding mass to your frame, of course you have to move up in dosages. You'll read a lot online, that the staple to start is 500mg a week and that's mainly just people regurgitating what other people have been regurgitating. Just take it into your own hands and go through the experience yourself and see what works best and obviously at 250mg a week when you first started worked. so 400mg will be fine.

I never understood using HCG while ON cycle. You have exogenous test In you, which is shutting you down and then you're putting HCG to plump up your balls trying to turn them back on BUT you have exogenous test in you? Yea I never understood that, another thing you read a lot. To each their own on that one. I would just save it for your pct and get the full benefits of each compound you're using.

Seeing how easy it is for you to increase your body fat, why bother with Dbol? You'll need to consume quite a bit of calories, maybe that kind of bloat bulk isn't such a great idea for you unless that's what you're looking for? Have you considered taking Tbol instead? It'll give you a more leaner look than a bloated look. Another compound I like adding to EQ/Test cycles is proviron. I think its an underrated compound. Known as the cheap mans Var and depending on your amount, some of its effects almost resembles Mast. It makes my skin look really thin which in return makes the vascularity more prominent.

Again, this was just an opinion of mine. I'm not saying i'm right and that you have to follow me, but I hope it shed some light. In the end, you have to experiment with dosages, you have to go through it and find what works best for you. Not 1 compound hits 2 different people the same and again, bring your body fat down before hopping on this.

Squirrel's picture

Thanks a lot man, solid!

Squirrel's picture

Thank you, i bounced up bf like crazy because work got busy and then got sloppy during the holidays. My diet is now decent again with 3000cals of clean foods. Will be increasing meat portions by 2oz soon. you mean use hcg during pct? i heard that can cause you complications. Here's a good one for you then. I didn't use hcg my first two cycles and plumped back up fine(unfortunately i don't have levels from a test). Would you say there is a maximum range of a harsh cycle where it is nessesary? Just yesterday my proviron touched down, they are 25mg from a domestic UGL(i hope they are legit). I was planning on taking one a day which is 25mg a day while on. I will consider the tbol instead of dbol,i'll read up on it, my lower belly fat is stubborn as hell, but it's been gone before. I guess i figured with the dbol, the water weight should be reduced by the end of my cycle. I

TheFlash85's picture

Why you keen on eq? You know mast e is superior and safer, way better all round.

Squirrel's picture

another thing i forgot to add, running proviron 25mg a day, thought about mast, but liked the sound of EQ results better

TheFlash85's picture

Mast shits all over eq

Squirrel's picture

Right on, I was reading that it works well with a super low bf, may be good at the end of this cycle.Im down to try that one.

333's picture

Drop body fat for sure also are you planning to bulk eq needs to be ran for 16 weeks minimum in my opinion but for your dosage that looks good to me it's not to high and not to low to become a waste but I'm not completely sure about front loading eq not sure if it's a waste or worth it i would wait for a vet to chime in on it