posted Tue, 05/23/2017 - 15:43
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Test cyp cycle with prop ??
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going for test cyp /prop cycle planning on going
Week 1-4 test prop 100 every 3days
Weeks 1-12 test cyp 600 mg every week
Oral winstrol weeks 8-12 50mg everyday
Feed back would be great 3rd cycle
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6ft 2
204lbs
~17% bf
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You are kind of going about things backwards here. At your current stats/bodyfat you don't need to a cycle to drop some fat. Starting out with BF that high it is pretty easy to drop down into the low teens with just a little bit of cardio and diet. Why waste a cycle when you can do that easily naturally. Drop that fat and then run a cycle to put on mass which is the hard part. That is what steroids are for, to build mass. They are not fat burners. You don't need any type of severe diet or workouts to bring that bodyfat down where you could possibly need the anti-catabolic properties of AAS. Now if you were starting out in the low teens and dropping down into single digit BF then yea a cycle would be justified, but it just isn't right now given your starting point. Once you drop that fat though, you are going to be pretty skinny. I would get on a solid diet afterwards to put some actual meat on your bones before running any type of cycle.
Your plan is not great, in my opinion....
Prop ED, I'd do 75mg ED to closely paralell the eventual 600 cyp
PCT ~60 days - should start ~24 days after last shot (ref half life) ¦ I'd recommend hcg during the 24 days (but would personally also use it on cycle however that complicates estro mgmt) ¦ PCT Needs Clomid
Bodyfat too high for winnie - you need to drop ~13lbs of fat alone to really see any tangible benefit - perhaps if you are going to cut a hell of a lot, but hard to see that in 8 weeks in time to commence a winnie run?????
What Diet? What support for Winnie?
Prop eod and you are good...
I think you need to put on more mass with a cycle and then cut after. You have an LBM of about 169 lbs. so you want to cut to what weight? At your height you're just gonna look skinny, unless that's your goal then go for it
I am hoping to add some weight as well but really wanna look defined more then anything
you wont add any weight while trying to lose weight. you need more muscle that can be defined. to be defined currently you would have to drop to like 180-185, youll look more like youre sick then...
My body fat % is a sheer quess but trust me I'm not fat by any means I can see all my abs my obliques are almost there etc I do apologize about guessing I may be way off I'm gonna get an accurate measurement
I think you can but that's our difference of opinions and depends on diet...
Prop needs to be eod pins for more stable levels
What ai are you taking? Needs to start day one since short ester is in use
What's your post cycle looking like?
Cycle goals just wondering winny so I'm thinking cutter
RustyhookerYou got this one. Needs adjustments.
Let me know I'm open to adjustments thanks
Honestly I've never used the AI i do have arimidex on hand but always been told not to use unless necessary . My
Pct is Nolva
Week 1 20 mg ed
Week 2 20 mg ed
Week 3 10 mg ed
Week 4 10 mg ed
Yes exactly goals are to get cut up a little leaner and hopefully more vascular
If you've never had a problem with estro at this dose then yeah I'd say just have on hand and if possible get bloods on week 5 to see if estro truly is in a good range.
Pct needs some beefing up:
Run Clomid @100mg Ed for two weeks then 50mg for another two
Nolva @40mg for two weeks then 20mg for another two
Start pct 16 days after last pin (14 is ok)
Eat right lift right pin right and you sir will accomplish your goals
Good luck man
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