test and primo
This will be my second cycle. My goal is to recomp with miminal sides. Everything I will use is pharma grade.
Just looking for opinions.
Week 1 - Test Cyp 400mg / Aromasin
Week 2 - Test Cyp 400mg / Aromasin
Week 3 - Test Cyp 400mg / Aromasin
Week 4 - Test Cyp 400mg / Aromasin
Week 5 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 6 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 7 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 8 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 9 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 10 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 11 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 12 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 13 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin
Week 14 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin / HCG
Week 15 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin / HCG
Week 16 - Test Cyp 400mg / Primobolan E 300mg / Aromasin / HCG
Week 17 - HCG / Aromasin
Week 18 - HCG / Aromasin
Week 19 - HCG / Aromasin / Clomid
Week 20 - Aromasin / Clomid / DAA
Week 21 - Aromasin / Clomid / DAA
Week 22 - Aromasin / Clomid
Week 23 - natty
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New cycle:
250mg test cyp / 250mg test e - per week
Using 25mg Proviron and .25mg adex per day as ancillary
Going to run 20 weeks this time.
Towards the end of the cycle I plan to incorporate HCG at 500ius EOD
Will start PCT at the end of 20 weeks with clomid/tamox/adex
Will stop HCG at week 23 (until the esters clear)
PCT will end with a tapering of adex and clomid ( will probably run it for 2 months total)
I plan to be off cycle for half a year after this one.
Thoughts?
Far too long. Why do you want to run 20 weeks? You're making recovery more difficult for yourself for most likely very little extra gains.
Reconsidering the primo...
Might just run the test at 500mg a week. Will aromasin keep SHBG in check?
Good decision!!! So....
Run proviron again with it throughout...50mg/day, and since you ran it already. That and asin will keep SHBG in check. Take your asin twice/day to. I usually take 6.25mg twice am/pm at any test 500mg and above. Works best cuz half life of asin in men is around 9 hours
And your PCT exactly?
Roid Noid below is absolutely right. Forget the idea of the Primo. Save your money. And, Hollywood is right too. Your goals are about diet. A simple test cycle should be more than adequate to maintain lean mass while u r dropping fat. And as far a diet is concerned I will recommend what I always recommend - a ketogenic diet. Everybody that has taken that suggestion from me so far and actually executed it has been a happy camper. It works. It's simple. Not much to manage. Research it, FR me and I will email u a diet.
The fat will melt off. You can even gain some lean mass on it as well which is what u want (if u work hard enough in the gym).
Aromasin should start around week 3-4, depending on if you have sides of high estrogen like acne or edema in the ankles.
What drugs did you use in your first cycle and PCT?
Need pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork.
I always get bloodwork. Came back clean.
I am sensitive to estrogen so I take an inhibitor throughout.
Last cycle was test at 350mg per week, proviron at 50mg/day, and adex
PCT was HCG tapering to clomid for a month
at 18%BF I wouldnt even consider primo for your goals.
Is 300 primo even enough.. With high bf I'm thinking it's a double flush of cash!!
The only thing he will experience is a small boost in endurance. Well that and a resentment for all the money he spent
Lol.. Flushing cash is never fun!
X2. Waste of cash.
Being only a second cycle you will still gain from one compound. Save the money for now. Especially if your using pharma amps of primo that is like $ 300 for a "10 ml Vail". You could maybe use a test prop or some oral like dbol for a kick starter.
Why are you starting the primo four weeks later?
This guy doesn't know what he's doing, that's why.
I can only afford 12 weeks worth. That stuff isn't cheap!
Should I run it at the beginning or end of cycle?
Primo really only works if your bf is low. It's great for precontest as it really shows when your conditioned but too expensive for a recomp. Better off sticking with just test or maybe use EQ or mast or similar lean gaining compounds.
If this is your second cycle, better to stick with test with maybe an oral like proviron
Then don't run it..wasting your time and money. AND not necessary right now for a 2nd run, like stated below by hllywd
Hey bud you would be better off sticking with test only for this one. The results to cost ratio isn't worth it and being your 2nd cycle test only would still get you the same results really at 1/3 the price. Just worry about the diet and you'll do well recomping and save the primo. MAYBE anavar if your feelin frisky ;) but diet is the key first!
Everything about this ^^^ says STICK WITH TEST ONLY CYCLE