posted Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:46
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swap tbol to dbol mid cycle after 3 wks ??/
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I am doing tbol now and have been very tired am doing
4 x 25 for the last 2ks and 3 x 25 for first week
Also start sus 300mg every 5 days and dec 300 every 7 days
Am glad it now appears the dec and sus is kicking in and not to keen on the tbol might swap it out for dbol for the rest of cycle
anyone done this mind cyccle and know the best way
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It's not the tbol.. first your dosing is way way off causing nasty fluctuations in your hormone levels.. you should be dosing sust at eod or e3d like ufo said and deca and a minimum twice a week.. also deca can and will suppress your thyroid leading to a lethargic feeling.. and so can elevated estrogen
You need AI's because I'd bet your estrogen and prolactin are elevated and imo you should drop the deca immediately.. It's not the tbol.. tbol prlly has the least sides compared to any oral steroid I've tried.. even var gives me more sides
Hi bro - what are your goals? - looks like a standard bulking cycle? Current weight? (Couldn't tell from your profile - number is garbled). BF%. Cycle history? Training history? You're cycle needs some adjustments, for sure. Let's start with learning more about you.
UFOHow do you know its the tbol making you tired? Have you gotten blood tests? Your estro could very well be jacked up causing the lethargic feeling. You taking any AIs? Caber or Prami with the deca?? Need more info bro. Also, why the hell you injecting the deca once a week? You should get on a more consistant pinning schedule. Sust really should be injected at least twice a week but best results at EOD or E3D so you get the most stable blood levels with that prop and phenylprop. And that deca should be pinned twice a week also. Give us a more detailed stat/cycle plan so we can help you ouot