posted Mon, 09/24/2012 - 00:42
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Sustanon and masteron ethanate combined?
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How does this sound 250 mg if sus once a week and 2 x 150 mg of masteron eth one on Monday the other on Thursday, looking for suttle solid gains. If I get too big too quickly the fun police will bust me ( the wife). I was. Thinking the masteron would act as an A I also, then novladex for pct. please all advice is welcome, done loads of orals this is my second real cycle. I know 250 is quite low but less sides and less chance of being busted lol and no water at those levels?
I seem to getting a load of you don't need them yet comments I forgot to mention I've been training for five years and have gained 20 lbs already I was around 135 to 140 lbs, and yet wasn't that skinny not waive like so have done quite well so far.
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Looking at the very short post of your daily intake of food, you do not eat enough. If your bf is actually that high then you are not training correctly with that small amount of food. I personally don't believe in vegetarianism or veganism. We're on top of the food chain for a reason. But I digress, you need to eat like 4 times more food than what you are eating now. 3 eggs a day ain't shit. I only eat 6, trying to eat more. Change your diet slowly and you won't fart as much, your body will learn how to process it better. Eat tomatoes with every meal, the lycopene assists in the digestion process.
Look into diets for bodybuilding for vegetarians, I'm sure you can find something. Blow up naturally before you use, then she won't be as suspicious.
Here's just one example, I didn't even look through it, I just "googled vegetarian bodybuilding diet" and this is one of the first things that came up.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vegetarian-bodybuilding.htm
Then if you're going to do it, don't bother with the sus, stick to one ester, click on cycle logs and look at any titles first cycle and follow the vets' critique and sides will be minimized. Drop the masteron, if you get too cut then you'll be obvious.
cdaddy7Hey heres a good shake idea to increase quality caloric intake and be a meal or sub for one....Its got the natural food macros in it with the protein your body needs:
GS9902's "kitchen sink wake up shake" = 1184 calories
2 scoops whey
1 egg
1 cup oats
1 cup plain greek yogurt
2 tbsp flax seed cold milled
1 banana
1 tbsp of natural peanut butter or almond butter
1 cup mixed berries
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cdaddy7Smack my head in anguish
Mast is NOT am AI bro so get some. IME sust tends to give me more retention than enth or cyp
And I'd take the sust up to at least 400, you should be pinning at least e3d anyway to optimize the short esters.
Thanks will do I already eat at least 3 eggs a day I smell like a sewer when I gas
As a vegetarian, you're going to need a LOT MORE than three eggs a day. Going to be a major part of your diet.
I eat about a dozen each day, plus meat, fish etc.
3 a day? I'm talking like 6 per meal!
...and flatulence is something you (and everyone around you) is going to have to get used to if you want to run with the BIG DAWGS! LOL!
cdaddy7Best damn protein source in the world if you ask me!! But smell like you have an intestinal rot when it is expelled...My wife keeps a air freshner strapped to her side bc of odorifus stinkus LOL
I know mast isn't an ai but it does help stopping test into eastrogens
i think u could increase the sus to 500 split twice a week and still avoid getting in trouble by the fun police.. drink smaller doses of shakes but more of them through out the day.. and get a bottle of creatine just in case shes on to u (excuse)
LMAO
Nice replies
Backing up everything already said. Lets get your diet on the right track first then we'll talk about AAS. There's absolutely no way you've used up your genetics to get tp 160 @ 14%BF
Can you break down your diet for us. What do you eat on a daily basis? How often? How much protein.
We'll help you achieve your goals, but lets do it in a way that you keep your hard earned gains.
I agree with all you said I do train hard and eat well but I don't eat meat or fish so really struggle to get a really good diet.
If I have too many protein shakes more than 4 I get the shits lol.
No meat or fish? Eggs and PB my man... Also may want to look into P28, a high protein bread. Shakes should be supplements and NOT meal replacements
Vegan / vegetarian, or you just don't like meat & fish????
You need your 250-300g of protein per day, where you going to get that from. Protein shakes are good, but you need food, supplements are an add on, not a replacement.
I'm thinking we need to multiply your protein intake several fold. Let me save you some money. Until we sort your protein, any AAS is a waste.
Vegetarian mate
OK I've pm'ed you some old information that hasn't seen the light of day for years. Gives you a list of most of the viable protein sources for a vegetarian, a protein value, and the amino acid profile of each. Goes through nuts, dairy etc.
Doesn't come up very often in this field, but could be useful information if anybody else with dietary restraints appears.
I work in food technology, so ask if you need anything else.
FR and pm me. I'll give you a hand with this.
I agree, you can make people think you're on steroids before you actually are by gaining 10-15 pounds easily from a better diet. The once you actually have some muscle on you think about gear and actually continue the gains. Or just stay natural. You really can look very good natural if you put in the effort it takes to run gear naturally.
You're right fella. I gained 25lbs in 2 years without gear. Not bad at my age!
I agree with all you said I do train hard and eat well but I don't eat meat or fish so really struggle to get a really good diet.
If I have too many protein shakes more than 4 I get the shits lol.
4 protein shakes? You need to eat more lil fella, that's part of your problem. Put the protein jug down and get more chicken. Post up what you ate yesterday and dont lie.
I'm a vege mate that's half the battle, yesterday was a rest day had granola oats with protein shake for breakfast, 2 slices of whole meal bread and beans for lunch, vegetable lasagne for dinner, Greek yoghurt before bed.
A training day is same breakfast, post workout shake,lunch baked potato with cottage cheese , dinner three egg omelette with more cheese.
I know that's not a lot of protein but kind of stuck, oh and nuts as a snack various kinds
Oh yea you're kinda fucked. But your diet needs some work big time. Add me and I'll send you a pm I have an idea for you, that still doesn't involve steroids.
cdaddy7If your stats are correct, you have a diet/nutrition issue bc u weigh 160 @ 14%....I'm gonna tell you no cycle of gear is going to make an impact on your physique unless u dial ur diet in....it's the diet dictates outcome, gear or no gear
I agree with all you said I do train hard and eat well but I don't eat meat or fish so really struggle to get a really good diet.
If I have too many protein shakes more than 4 I get the shits lol.
cdaddy7I got a hearty shake for good quality calories to help you make your caloric goals posted above
X2 big bro
Diet is key, steroids or no steroids.
Remember bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint - and diet is used day in, day out throughout that marathon...steroids comes and goes, and is only used for short periods. What i am saying here is that with a correct diet in place, all your gains from steroids will not be lost. On the flip side, if your diet was poor and used steroids, yes you would see small gains, but would you be able to keep them......NO! All you need to do here my friend, is follow a strict bodybuilding diet for at least 90 days, train hard, sleep well, and you will grow - once you have mastered this, then you introduce steroids to enhance the effects of this. Remember steroids are performance enhancing drugs, not performance building drugs and will only enhance the effects of what you have already achieved. Make it sustainable bro, nail the diet, then come back and we will all be happy for you to nail a cycle
I agree with all you said I do train hard and eat well but I don't eat meat or fish so really struggle to get a really good diet.
If I have too many protein shakes more than 4 I get the shits lol.