Stoppng tren/prop gyno?
First off, I'm 29, 6'1, 212lbs 10%BF Cycle #8. I've been on cycle for 4 weeks. I ran Prop and Tbol for the first 4 weeks and for the first time added tren A to the cycle a few days ago for the last 8 weeks of my cutting cycle. I've done about 8 cycles and i've never had an issue with gyno before but now my left nipple feels a little bruised almost and seem a little puffy and seems to have a small mass directly beneath it.
my cycle looks like this.
50mg ED prop 1-4 weeks
50mg ED Tbol 1-4 weeks
37.5mg EOD prop 4-12 weeks
75mg ED Tren A 4-12 weeks
caber 1mg EW 4-12 weeks
Adex .5mg EOD 4-12 weeks
This is my question. I'm not sure, since i started the tren, how to go about treating it. I do have plenty of adex on hand if that's the best choice. I'd like to kill as quickly as possible. Please help! Thanks guys!
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you did 8 cycles in the past and you still do not know what to do and how to treat the early onset of gyno?? it seems like you dont know much about the roids your injecting into yourself but getting gyno from tren is pretty rare (prolactin induced). it is not the tren i promise you that, youve only been on that for a week. stop all the steroids, take letro for 5 days and start your pct early.
I know how to treat gyno when it's from straight test. My question was how to treat it when tren is involved. This was my first run with tren. I didn't want to take for the gyno and exacerbate the gyno that has already started. Thanks for the flame though. I appreciate that.
RustyhookerOnly on tren a few days. Cut the tren til estro is under control. Go to peptides and use the aromasin from top supplier. Get letro as backup. Aromasin 25day for a week then drop to 12.5ed. Get blood tested end of week 2.
Your adex is bunk ir you maybe nonresponsive. Coulda just started too late. I start my ai on short Esters the second week. Get the aro before breast growth starts.
I just started too late. It's pharma grade. I've letro on its way.
Chaz32621You should take a google search look at high and low estrogen related sides. You getting a lot of acne??
No acne at all...
Chaz32621Run the letro at 2.5 that kills estrogen. I have to ask tho man from your post below about your results why not just stick with ur prop and tbol for 8 weeks then finsh it out with prop till week 12? I'd also start adex asap at .25 eod try that first but have letro on hand. I would have started adex after week one I just read you started it week four its most likely from ur test then since you didn't have an ai for the first three weeks......
Why cut the Adex in half? I'm already at .5 EOD right now.
Marcel1229It's going to be hard for you bro, because your body doesn't produce Tren, so I guess just get your Test levels back up, and for gyno, idk what to say man, if your gyno is bad, you would have to go get surgery to get them cut off ( sounds painful ) but it's true, I have never taken Tren but I have friends on them, so I know what it's like, and believe it or not, Tren will make you act like a maniac.
...have a PCT on deck and good luck!
far from the truth bro, gyno is treatable and surgery is very rare, letro will do it , if not nolva or a combination, dont tell him he needs surgery, when you have no idea
HardBodEricWell people who haven't used or Learned about Letro actually DO think that surgery is the only way, everytime i hear about some1 getting gyno removed with surgery i think "Damn if only he knew about letro."
yeah its not only letro though mate, letro is best for it, but nolva can work and so can aromasin or a combination!! nolva can work once you are completley finished your cycle and have no aas left in your system, then blitz it for a few weeks at a good dose
I've already felt the maniac part after only 4 days. It's craziness.
Chaz32621Yah this is kinda a tough one
Personally I would up the adex to .5mgs ED for a week then drop it back to EOD then E3D. I doubt its Tren related (was it Tren A, E , H ?) as youve only been on it for a few days.
It's tren A. Sorry I should have specified that. I don't think it is related to the tren. That just seems so fast to be related. I only started it Monday.
Im upping my adex and I ordered letro and if things aren't better by the time it arrives in a few days I'll run it.
If your comfortable holding off for 7/10 days on the Letro, then run the adex as I suggested. Letro is a harsh compound for "emergency" use, IMO. Running Letro mid cycle will really screw your cycle up...... Your call bro, just speaking from personal exp
Danno.
I notice, especially on 19-nor compounds, that if my AI dosing protocol is not done at the same time consistently, I will have your problem for a couple days. My nipples have a slight ache and a pee sized lump. I take my AI in the morning always, and personally use Prami taken at night.
This cycle I wanted to do all of my dosing at night for convenience, well problem arrived and changed to mornings and issue resolved.
letro will get rid of the lump what ever caused it , that being said if its tren related it will come back without the dostinex
i already got the caber so i'm good there.
id just run the letro @ 2.5 a day for 7 days, then run aromasin as normal to stop rebound
letro has been ordered. i had some on hand but i found out today that the wife tossed the box i had it in... oops. i plan on continuing the cycle as layout hopefully it doesnt get any worse over the next few days.
all good bro it happens, my mate had a gyno flare and i gave him my letro and adex, im on aromasin then bam 2 weeks later i got gyno flare and no letro!! always the way
If you can't get caber get prami I like it better and its easyer to find. You need to get something asap befor things get worse.
i'm already on caber but i dont think think the gyno is from the tren because i only just started in a few days ago. i'm just not sure what to take now that the tren is factor in the cycle... any ideas?
I had no problems with gyno tell I ran tren ace got it really fast don't remember how fast but I don't do if this is what you should do but its what I did. I ran letro tapered up to 2.5 and ran prami and ran letro tell a week past the lump being gone amd stayed on prami for prolaction caused fom tren. And then continued my ai with was adex. Ran adex and letro at the same time but I think the last of estrogen in my joints hurt bad so droped adex then like I said continued after stoping letro but I still stayed on cycle. I don't no it it right but it worked for me I have to no one to help me with this so its like a trial and error. Hope it helps.
thanks buddy... i'll get that together... i'll need to get some letro right away then. i hope it helps too!
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Chaz32621On a side note how's the cycle coming along??
Seriously impressive. My workout has never been harder and the result has never been better. Prop and Tbol was a great choice for me. I've ran them before but maybe not from a legit source and my diet is as go if not better than its ever been. up 15lbs and down 3%bf... i'm stoked for the tren results to come! I just need to stop this damn gyno issue.
if chaz's method doesnt work , which it most likely will , try aromasin 25 ed until symptoms subside
Chaz326212.5mg letro ED
.5 mg caber EOD
until 1 week after lump goes away
Vets please chime in the letro won't be needed if the gynos coming from ur tren, but just to be safe I'd run both. Remeber letro will kill estrogen and caber will kill trens progestin causing gyno.
thanks for the reply....
I think that since i've only been on the tren for a few days now that its probably from the prop. letro would be the way to go then huh?