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-1 start from body fat 13% to 10% or even less with Testo Prop + Winny + Masteron + T3 that's possible ?

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Hi guys,

I'm just new here and i would like to know what do you think about my cycle.

Let me introduce my profile a bit:

I'm a Cross fit man 50% of my time, 40% I'm practice MMA and last 10% bodybuilding

I'm training 2 times per day, 1 session morning time and another one evening time.
5 times per week
2 days off a week : Wednesday and Sunday

Age :37
Height: 187
Weight: 82
BF: 13%

My goal its going around 75 to 77 for the weight and my BF less than 10%.

I order already the products (stays in my hands)

Testosterone Propionate – 100mg/amp 10 Ampoules of 1ml
Suspension 50 - Stanozolol Water Suspension – 50mg/amp 10 Ampoules of 1ml
Drostanolone Propionate – 100mg/amp 10 Ampoules of 1ml
Liothyronine Sodium – 25mcg/tab Box of 50 tabs

Anastrozole – 1mg/tab Box of 50 tabs
Tamoxifen Citrate – 20mg/tab Box of 50 tabs
Clomiphene Citrate – 50mg/tab Box of 50 tabs

and also a box a vitamine B12 ampoules for i can mix it with the Winstrol.

I have plan to doing this cycle for 8 weeks :

  • Weeks 1 to 8:
    50mg Testosterone Propionate EOD (every 2 days)
    50mg Stanozolol Water Suspension EOD (every 2 days) mix it with B12
    50mcg Arimidex EOD (every 2 days)
    Question : the amp its 100mg/amp but i will use only 50mg/amp, what should i do keep the last 50mg for the next injection or i must throw in the bin. maybe it's stupid question but better to share my question.

  • Start T3 Liothyronine Sodium week 2 until week 8 : Pyramid style
    Week 2: 25mcg per day
    Week 3: 50mcg per day
    Week 4: 75mcg per day
    Week 5: 100mcg per day
    Week 6: 100mcg per day
    Week 7: 75mcg per day
    Week 8: 50mcg per day

  • And start week 5 Masteron rapid until week 8
    50mg Drostanolone Propionate EOD (every 2 days) mix with Testosterone Propionate
    Same question for the amp.

  • And for the PCT :
    Start 3 days after the end of the treatment : take 2 Clomiphene Citrate and 1 amoxifen Citrate during 20 days.

i read also with Winny i must be careful with my tendons specially when i practice MMA with my coach right?
Do you have any recommendations for this ?

Please guys if I'm doing something wrong let me know
i want to start it this Monday number 7
Thanks guys...

mike123's picture

just for let you know i was really surprise this morning
i check my weight this morning empty stomach
80.3 kg
i was 82.4 something last Monday (number 7 first day of my cycle)
I'm really happy for the first week
i know its go down quick for the first weeks and after less
but really good results

DbolAndAll's picture

drop t3, especially anything above 50mcg you will just strip muscle off your frame. drop the tren. replace winny with anavar and start pct 1 week after your last jection and if you are running mast theres no need for ai but keep ai on hand

mike123's picture

really thanks for your advice
but i start just with Test P first and the diet plan from lincoln

mike123's picture

Big thanks to lincoln for your help

I got a personal a diet for my goal (very pro)
i got also some advices for my training
and i follow his advice
i will start only with 100mg TEST P EOD

i will start this monday then.

mike123's picture

first injection TEST P and start the diet
i will keep post the evolution

mike123's picture

what you think if I'm adding a trenbolone on this cycle?
long ester or rapid ester ?
i use rapid ester for all must be rapid too for tren ?

Lincoln's picture

Don't just say random roids and hope someone agrees. Read my post and decide what you are going to do.

mike123's picture

I'm agree with you but i really want to make a cycle, i need it....

and the diet plan will be like i said to you.

What you think about that :

week 1 to 8 :

Weeks 1 to 8:
100mg Testosterone Propionate EOD (every 2 days)
100mg Primobolan (every 2 days)
50mcg Arimidex EOD (every 2 days)

maybe add some Anavar with this?

And start week 5 Masteron rapid until week 8
100mg Drostanolone Propionate EOD (every 2 days) mix with Testosterone Propionate

And for the PCT :
Start 3 days after the end of the treatment : take 2 Clomiphene Citrate and 1 Tamoxifen Citrate during 20 days.

mike123's picture

I'm waiting your feed back about my diet
and then if you alright about this cycle i will order primo and anavar

fusebox's picture

Just don't mess with thyroid meds if have to ask about them. One wrong move and you'll be relying on them forever.

As Lincoln said below diet is where this should be centered.

Bill G's picture

Remember that kid that needed steroids because the guys in school were gonna beat him up?

fusebox's picture

That and the dude that his mom got his pack and was pissed at the source cause the tracker didn't work. LMFAO

Bill G's picture

Yeah I think It is the same kid.

mike123's picture

yes i know dude thanks for your interest
but you can see what i really need from this cycle

Faz's picture

What Lincoln has said below is the perfect advice you’ll get.

This isn’t a good cycle, I’m assuming your going to inject the Winstrol, it hurts like a bitch and has no real place for someone who spends a lot of time practising MMA, you will get injured as Winstrol pulls the water out of your joints.

My advice would be a simple eca stack or even albuterol and count your calories.

You will achieve your target, no problem with a good diet, your training 10 times a week, your metabolism should be through the roof.

mike123's picture

Thanks bro

I been thinking too about albuterol but this one its a bit similar to clenbuterol right ?

What about cramp and tremor with albuterol?

SegaKid87's picture

Stopped reading at 10% bodybuilding... (throws up)

mike123's picture

sorry i practice cross fit and MMA mostly
but i will be proud if i can share with you guys the cycle of my training partner when i go to the gym
his goal :

Age : 33
Height : 180
Weight : 81
BF : 12%

He would like to make a bulking cycle
with injection and orals
He would like his weight up to 90kilos
I will ask him all information then i will post a new cycle

SegaKid87's picture

He would like you would like.... Mate seriously just no. Get it done or don't simple, personally I have a goal and I'm doing what's needed to obtain this. Not sayin I would like to bla bla.

Sorry no patience for crap.

Bill G's picture

Have your friend make an account so he can answer his own questions.

Lincoln's picture

Also dont forget to post his diet!

From bodybuilding perspective 12% bf where does he want to go?

Beter cut like you than bulk.

mike123's picture

he said to me he wants to bulk first and then cut
so he will up to 90 kilos then after i will start a new cycle for cut
that's what he said to me in the gym today

bulk cycle like
Sustanon + Deca 500mg per week each for 10weeks
Dianabol kick start 50mg per day for 4 weeks
when i have more information i will post new topic about this
better

Lincoln's picture

Let him make own account now focus on yourself

mike123's picture

He doesn't want it
so i ask me to do for him
i will post a new topic later for this if i can
i don't know why my karma its -2
did i do something wrong ?

Greg's picture

Stop being his girlfriend. This isn't high school. We're not going to play this game.

If he wants free advice from some good and knowledgeable people, he can grow a pair and ask for himself.

Lincoln's picture

You need to stop posting about all the compounds you think that are good. People are giving you negative points.

mike123's picture

ok then sorry
i'm just talking and asking some opinions
ok i understand

Lincoln's picture

Questions is oke but not suggestions about roids. So beter ask what you can use than random saying alot of different compounds. What you can use with the experience you got of course.

mike123's picture

ha ok
i understand better ...

Lincoln's picture

Oke thats alot info but not the right info...

Any experience with roids? Don't seem like it because you never! Throw good oils away..

Whats your diet and marco's ? Roids won't get you lean without proper diet. T3 is a option but not needed when you want to drop to 10%.

10% bodybuilding is called weight training. 10% bodybuilders don't exists. 110% bodybuilder do exist 100% commitment / lifestyle and food with some 10% roids .

You buy the stuff for you cycle and than ask advise is the other way around...Who has advised you this cycle ? You already got the stuff so here is some advise, you are going to start them anyway.

Your cycle imo is harsh have you ever taken winstrol suspension? (Asking for pain)

Arimedex on hand dont just throw it in. Pct is short with hcg. Even on cycle is a option.

Test p is good enough for first cycle.

If you workout 2 times a day I would prefer other compound than of your choosing. If you are worried about joints stay off winstrol and choose other compounds nextime. You can cut to 10% on any compound your diet is the holy grail.

Next time ask advise before you buy your cycle. Dont see my message as sarcasm, I got no hard feelings bro. Just saying that you need more knowledge and education before you use roids.

mike123's picture

Thank you for your answer
yes you are right I should have followed the reverse path, start talking here and buy my products
but hey here I am and I already have my products because it was offered to me.
if however I can not start on Monday and review the cycle plan I completely agree
I prefer to do things correctly, health above all
we are athletic but aware of what we are taking

what do you recommend me instead of Winstrol?

if you don't mind could you resume my cycle plan
thanks again

Lincoln's picture

Why the hurry for Monday? If you want to do it right take time to get everything right! Than start the Monday after that.

You still haven't said what you are going to eat while you are on cycle.. I will give you 2 options.

Plan for the right way:

Normally when i help someone i need to estimate the bf% oftend the bodyfat% they say is not right. So my recommendation make new post with pictures without face from front and back.

Estimate macros and food preferences.

After that lookat roids and stims if needed. If you do it right you only need low amount of roids to cut to 10%bf. It is even possible you drop to 11- 12% when you start a diet depending on what do did eat before.

Second option:

You leave us in the dark about you diet and real bf%
Now the advice of me is beter use nothing. If you want to use something best is to use test p for maintaining you muscles. Don't use winstrol or any other drug because it's not needed with proper diet.

Also don't say I cut to 10% you will cut 8-10-12-16 weeks if you go below 10% its beter. This doesn't mean you stop your cycle of diet after 5 weeks if you hit 10%.

When you bulk its better to start from lower bf than 10%

Don't focus on gear but on you own power and dedication. If you want to do things right no shortcuts. You know what to do now.

mike123's picture

Thanks a lot for your time and your help
i have a diet plan around 2500 cal per day if not enough i will go up 2800 cal
let's see

Lincoln's picture

Send me pm with your diet so not 2800 cal but all the stuff . Protein/carbs/ fat what you are going to eat.

mike123's picture

i just send to you my diet plan thanks...

IrishMack's picture

Let him also know 50mg of test P eod is less than 275 a week a d needs to be upped to 100 at minimum. Also a first cycle using test P we are gonna have an abscess post by this guy in about 2 weeks.

fusebox's picture

This guy literally has to be trolling us. He's talked about almost every steroid in this thread in one post or another

mike123's picture

I'm not trolling, I'm not can use my time for nothing
a forum its for ask a question right ?
I'm sorry to be not PRO about products like you
i just want to ask for not make mistakes, thanks to understand

mike123's picture

I'm not trulling, I'm not can use my time for nothing
a forum its for ask a question right ?
I'm sorry to be not PRO about products like you
i just want to ask for not make mistakes, thanks to understand

mike123's picture

I'm sorry guys i just want to find the best way for me
now i just send my diet plan to Lincoln

IrishMack's picture

So, you can't kill the demon at the end of level six? Do you have the magic arrows? Easy, here's what you do. Hide behind the boulder. When the demon comes out of the cave, shoot him three times with the magic arrows. Then his head will start to spin. Once that happens, you jump up on the boulder, you do a flying downward thrust with the sword of doom, and thats it - level six is done. Cycle complete!

IrishMack's picture

Wants to gain muscle on 2800 calories a day, wants to take every steroid known to man, wants to do 50mg of prop eod to start, now its primo as well. Trolling hard and caught some people in it. If you haven't noticed lately, the trolls don't even have to try hard at all, they nail someone within minutes of their posts.
He has 10 1ml amps and thinks hes doing 8 weeks of eod shots @50mg.

mike123's picture

i know its a lot message for nothing because i would like to know the best stack for me
sorry if it's annoying you
and the products i got it was a gift
3 boxes of each i have / 3 Testo / 3 winstrol/ 3 masteron

fusebox's picture

Oh and don't forget about the sust and deca for ten weeks LMFAO

Lincoln's picture

Yeah i know but like alot of guys who do roids to fast dont want advice. But some kind of permission, they want people to agree what they do is right.
Test p is something but winstol suspension..and b12 injection..this will hurt like hell. I think after 4 injections your done if your not used to this.

I am not talking about dosage or compounds yet because he still needs to post more info.
But if he starts this cycle better only testp

mike123's picture

Can i replace Winstrol by primobolan ?
so i can mix TEST P and Primo together
it's will be less pain

mike123's picture

sorry buddy it's not my first cycle
i was try already a cycle with TEST P few years ago
any recommendation I'm listening everybody
thanks dude

fusebox's picture

Well said +2.

Eagles 2013's picture

Honestly, it sounds like you could attain your goals without steriods because diet is the key driver of weight loss. You also need to be very, very careful with the T3. It has the potential to do permanent damage to your thyroid and is also very catabolic and will cause muscle tissue to be burned as energy as well as fat. Have you ever cycled before?

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