short cycle idea
previous cycles were traditional Test Enanthate first cycle.
Second cycle was Test Cyp anadrol finished with Test prop and winstrol.
Here's my idea just brainstorming lets say no more than like 6-8 weeks tops. Cutting cycle since I compete in martial arts so I need to be strong, functional and in a certain weight class.
Diet mostly consisting of high protien with lots of greens and fruit, so strictly clean no happy goodness cheat meals. Anyways onto my cycle idea please add or subtract I always love to learn.
6-8 weeks lets say if you suggest shorter please do.
-Test prop 300-400mg week that would be every other day.
-Mast Prop 300mg week (never used mast but like I said just an idea.)
-Oral Halo 20mg first 7-10 days then 10mg everyday after that. I only have 20tabs of Halo and I would like to try then out
- Anastrozle on hand unless anyone suggest running it throughout the cycle.
Let me know if my dosing looks reasonable or whatever.
-Then pct hcg, Nolvadex, Clomid.
There was my idea gimme some criticism
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4 weeks dbol 20 to 30 MG ed with test cypionate 500 a week 2 x250, what is best anti estrogen to run with it. Thoughts please!!! Was thinkING a good liver protection, should I ran it during d bol or right after, I heard it cuts down effect of dbol
DeathstrokeI like Anastrozle but I am gonna order some exemestane for next Run.
I use liv52 for liver detox after you finish D-bol.
be careful with the fluxy mate, crazy drug, realy does highly increase aggression and little things cn put you in a filthy mood, you wont really get a lot out of it muscle mass wise, maybe a bit of hardening maybe a bit of vascularity, strength will go up, but in 20 days, not massively, i telling you, with halo you need to find proper live support, otc stuff won't barely suffice, it relly is very, very toxic, if you take it be careful.
mast prop, 50mgs daily? how are you going to dose it? 300 is on the lower side, again not a drug that is going to build solid mass, just a hardening and conditioning compound with a bit of vascularity and a mild strength increase, the anti estrogenic benefits will be nice.
test prop- reasonable, your decision on tweeking up or down depending on goals/ results.
bloods are a must if using the halo, also get good prostate support and monitor your blood pressure, twice daily on the halo.
ive used it a couple of times and i do get anger issues, im generally an aggressive person but honestly little things would put me in a bad mood, be vigilant.
DeathstrokeI may just drop the halo.
If i do the mast I was thinking 100mg every other day so maybe 400mg
Rustyhooker100 eod is 500 by weight. Mol measurement
Rustyhooker100 eod by ester weight is 500 enanthate.
Prop doesn't have a weekly amount. It's dead in 2 days, so what's your daily pins or eod pins going to look like. Mast will keep you drier. I've not yet run halo.
DeathstrokeI feel you on that Enanthate logic Rusty I will probably do that instead. This would be my first run with mast if I do it, would you recommend mast for mma/wrestling athlete?
RustyhookerJust looking at your need to be drier. There's tricks like the vitamin c to lower water retention. So you could go 6-8 weeks on props. Just comparing dose to goals. Less test can still add 6+ pounds.
Medex below has good idea on provi.
Pre cycle BW
TP 100 eod (looks good as above) and proviron 25 eod...for six weeks
saw palmetto 160mg ed
No halo..this time...
Sub provi for mast...
AI arimidex works...exemestane may be better choice. Standard doses PRN E2 S & Sx.
Clomid/Nolva are standard doses? If u use hCG on cycle, u might want to look into using low dose exemestane with clomid and nolva.
Could hold hCG...But what is the planned dose and frequency?
You have your next cycle planned? FR SENT.
I some ideas to run by u for next cycle....
RustyhookerNice! And if he starts getting over comp weight he can lighten the eod doses.
True.....and get quicker results...maybe drop to 75mg 2wks to cycle's end, anyway.
DeathstrokeFr accepted. The cycle is planned out yet just kicking around some ideas. I like your input though:)
Thx bro..
8 weeks is not a short cycle. That is really the longest cycle you should run with short acting compounds, especially something like halo. If you want to do short cycles, 2 week tren cycles are best. You get maximum long term gains with minimal sides and rapid recovery.
DeathstrokeTren is not recommended for endurance sports. Maybe i should minus a week or two?
Respiratory issues rarely manifest in 2 weeks. Most people want to run short cycles to recover faster or avoid testing. 2 weeks is the threshold. Longer than that, and recovery is much harder. Nothing builds lean muscle mass like tren. Just a suggestion!
DeathstrokeI hear ya
No, Tren is NOT recommended for endurance sports. Why? Many athletes (not all) experience diminished cardio conditioning while running Tren. I have experienced shortness of breath myself on some of my Tren cycles.
DeathstrokeExactly bro so I will always have to pass on the tren because of that lol
Halo is used many times for aggression/strength in combat sports and power lifting. It's super toxic and unless your competing, I'd steer clear.
I also think four compounds for your third cycle is a bit much. I think you should master a cycle by repeating it a few times and then adding one compound, and mastering that as well. There should be no rush in your cycles and you should never use something just bcause you have it.
I like the short cycle idea, but I would stick to prop and maybe mast.
DeathstrokeI would use the halo to compete but I feel you on lowering the number of compounds being used.
Test look ok but is bf low enough to run mast??
I don't know much about halo but all I read is that it's hella toxic do u really want to run that ur whole cycle ?? People mainly use it to keep strength and stay tight once they drop oils this just an opinion I have never used halo
DeathstrokeMy bodyfat % usually never goes up past 12% I always stay pretty cut and lean if I do go up it is very easy for me to drop.
The halo is a freebie I kinda wanted to try out, it is either that or D-bol. Or should I just stick with winstrol I just kind of wanted to try out a new oral really lol.
I guess it would make sense to stack winstrol with Mast. I don't know just kicking around some ideas.
Well I would try it towards the last 3 weeks just to get the experience but again I wouldn't know much I would say sit tight till someone who has used halo drops and opinion
What's ur goal though?? Strength? Cut??
DeathstrokeUnderstood sounds reasonable.
The goal is to cut and without losing any strength or muscle. I compete in submission grappling/mma
Still stocking up on my primo and Anavar cycle. So until then I figured a test prop cycle would hold me off lol.
Primo and anavar cycle? Dang. Shoot me a PM whenever you feel like it. Primo is nice for the ladies and it was OK as a cutting drug 40 years ago but times have changed. LOL
DeathstrokeI will keep you in mind about that Gearhead. Thank you.