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First Cycle. I'm 28 6;4 85kg and i have been training for 6 years.

I want to do test e, var and eq for 12 weeks?. But being a dumb ass i need someone to help me out by making it as easy for me to understand as possible.

i.e how much to order or each for a cycle of so many weeks. What pct i need and how much. What type of needles. etc..

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but i really dont want to make any mistakes.

Thanks in advance.

OdyOdd's picture

6'4 85 kilos. Man those are some horrible stats. Im normally not the one to judge but that seriously skinny.

mike7's picture

Please do this cycle only..I'm ginna do this too for my first cycle ...basic first cycle

12 week cycle beginning April 1st consisting of Test E

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week split into two shots mon/Thursday
PCT starts week 14 consisting of Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20
AI on hand as needed

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a9a0's picture

ok dude. so just run the test e for 3 months?

I have some var 50 mg, and i thought to use them whilst on the test e.

and the eq was just to give me some bulk..

im always open to opinions, hence the thread name ha.

supersavage's picture

If you've never even used test before why would you use so many compounds.I don't know why all you new guys think you need to use so much shit right out of the gate.I used test only for several years before I even thought about mixing anything else into my cycle.Hell I still run test only cycles and get great results.Funny you should mention nolva only hollywood I've been cycling for 13 years now and only started using clomid in the last two .I never had a problem.

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Ps thanks for the replies.. Its not for the fact i haven't been doing my home work, because i have. I have been thinking about the steriod route for years. But i keep learning new info and when i think i have found the right cycle, i find contrasting info and its back to square one again (well in my head anyways)

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This is what i think,

Weeks 1-14 test E 500 mg/wk
weeks 1-13 Eq 400 mg/wk
weeks 9-14 var 50mg/ed
weeks 14-16 150mg clomid 80mg nolva
week 17 100mg clomid 40mg nolva
week 18 50mg clomid 20mg nolva

Does that sound about right?

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Brutha, if you want to enter the world of AAS you will hear this time and time again... Straight Test (e)or(c) (250 2xWK) for a 10-12wk cycle. The reason for this is that AAS is more that just "jab and lift", its getting to know your body and how it responds to different compounds. Alot of new guys will do A 10WK cycle (just because it gives them an even vial count - 2/10ml vials) which is fine. This will allow you to gage if you are prone to gyno. Just THIS info alone is worth the simple cycle. (Have AI on hand ALWAYS!)

PCT - lot of different schools of thought, "I" have always been fine with a simple Nolva 40/40/20/20 (but many swear by clomid)

Pins - 23gage are MY magic# others prefer 25, its something you will need to figure out on your own, as well as learning your sites. AGAIN, a simple test cycle is 2pins a wk and glutes are a good (the best?) starter site to hit. Once you gain experience and comfortabilty you can venture to other sites

Take some time and RESEARCH and I am sure you will (eventually) have a successful 1st cycle : )

MY .02

Tvo's picture

Well said!

mike7's picture

If you don't know that much think u don't know enough for a cycle..research research research

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