posted Sat, 07/28/2018 - 11:20
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Second cycle Only test
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Hello guys i wanna get better at powerliting. I am planning to:
I am 25 years old. 1,82 80kg
Week 1-16 750mg test e
Week 1-16 Arimidex 0,5 ed
Week 1-4 Anadrol 50-75mg ed
pct
Nolva 40/20/20/20
I am not sure about anadrol, i wanna us it for more strengh, i dont care about water retention.
Also do i need clomid or nolva it is enought?
Should i use only test or better adding another AAS?
It is my second cycle after 500mg test e with dbol for 13 weeks
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You are going to crash your estro with that adex dose as soon as you drop the drol. Have you taken bloods? Any plan on taking them during and post cycle?
Also whats your body fat % at those 80kg. You sure you cant at least work your way up to 90kg/200lbs naturally? At 25 your test levels should be thru roof anyway, what does your recent bloodwork say?
CarmonaSo i have to take less adex? maybe if i only see that i need it?
I will do a bloodwork next moth, i wanna keep droping %fat to 15%, i am like 18-19% atm.
Id personally wouldn’t run this cycle. Your BF and weight are similar to mine, yet you are 10 years younger so you have way more natural test levels than me. Its completely unnecessary and overkill.
If you choose to run in the end, at least drop the drol and dont start your AI until you need it. You should be taking bloods at around week 4 on cycle to see where you are at. 750mg of test is high enough, theres no need for an oral.
Also dont start any cycle until you see your bloods
Just don't expect the anadrol to feel anything like the Dbol as it doesn't, its more a case of if you can tolerate the feeling of it together with the high blood pressure headaches if anything....
Geeze they not lasting long these days
CarmonaBut if i can should be better than dbol in terms of strenght?
Personally I think prop is the best kicker there is.
100% agree Sam, simple and effective
CarmonaSomething like 100mg ed for 3 weeks?
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with kick starting with anadrol, it’s relatively low sides and perfect for your goals. Just watch your BP and drink plenty.
750 test seems a little high for your 2nd cycle in my opinion, maybe that’s just the way I’m looking at it! 500 would do a brilliant job.
What does your diet look like?
CarmonaI m gonna try to do a clean bulk. for 80 kg 240gr of protein should be ok right? less than 60-80g fat and rest carbohydrates.
Omega3 for support, also taurine for back pumps
If you want to pm I’m happy to chat about diet bro. I’m no pro on the subject but we may be able to organise something.
I get way worse sides with anadrol than I do with tren, I find it one of the worst feelings ever. Almost can't train on it.
thats 2bad for you broski cause combined with tren =hulk mode !
Tell me about it! I'm gonna try the inject oxy as I've been told it feels quite different
Gains for dayssss
word !!!
CarmonaMaybe i should also have in hand test prop, try a few days the kickstar and if i see bad sides just stop and keep with the test prop.
Many people do plus lethargy.... that’s a good reason to run test only for 2nd cycle & see how his body responds to the test this time. First cycle included dbol, & it’s important for us to learn our bodies reactions to the compounds & plus some cycles our bodies react differently to the same compounds.
Very true.
Run anadrol as a finished once you know the craic
Literally as soon as I take an adrol tab I just want to lay down and go to sleep for the next 2 hours then the next 24hrs I feel so lethargic and numbed. What on earth causes this? Some people say a massive oestrogen spike but I think its more an adverse reaction from the body like you are allergic to it.
Also do i need clomid or nolva it is enought?
They both work independanty. They both have their place. You should findout why you need clomid and nolvadex. They are bit the same drug. Alot of people think they work the same but they do not. They are both clasified as serms yes but do different jobs
CarmonaSo i should run both even if i only run test right?
I feel like your just saying that because i said it. Im not cosigning. Do your home work. What is the reason to run clomid ? What does it do for you? Why do you need it. What is the reason to run the nolvadex? What does it do for you? Why do you need it?
Definitely drop the adrol & run another test only cycle for optimal results. As I said below, you can kickstart with test prop. Your first cycle should have been test only also. Here’s some links for you to research & they will definitely help you understand a little more bro.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/a-must-read-for-...
CarmonaI am reading every links, ty a lot!
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I'm in the same position as you, instead of using a kickstart I frontloaded the test 750x2 on the first week. Some say it works some say it's a waste but I am Just starting week 3 tomorrow and have to say it's kicked in a lot faster(end of week 2) then when I just did it the traditional method on my first cycle(end of week 4-5).
I'd look up frontloading and do some research on that before making the decision on using something toxic like anadrol.
Front loading with test can put you on a hormonal rollercoaster bro. In my opinion, it’s always best to kick start with prop.
Agreed, not a good idea to front load with test. Specially when we have test prop or ace available.
Exactly!!!