Second cycle advice
Hey guys, new to the forums here. First off, I'm 28, 5'9 and weight 180lbs. Ive done one cycle, 500mg sust, 400mg eq and 30mg winny last 4 weeks. Ran the cycle for 12 weeks. Definitely loved it but wish my body went further in a sense. I want to do another cycle and need some advice.
I was going to run test e and npp but I cant seem to get my hands on caber or prami. I would've ran 500mg test and either 300 or 450mg npp.
Since I cant get caber I'm not sure what to do! My goal is lean mass and help aid my diet and training to get ready for summer.
I was thinking should I just do test e maybe 600 or 750mg a week with winny. I kind of wanted to add another injectable but not sure which and definitely staying away from tren until I have more cycles under the belt.
What do you all think I can add with test? or should I do just test or what? Almost want to do eq but heard its prime is for Doesn't look like ill find caber.
Thank you guys in advance.
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so on your first cycle, you did 3 new compounds.....
1 cycle, test only
2 cycle, test and maybe an oral.
You should only run one new compound at a time
TEST and EQ is always a great, simple cycle. A cycle I think you can't go wrong with and EQ being a compound that is often passed upon; it adds its unique kind of thickness and vascularity; You'll be surprised what you can gain.
BUT REALISTICALLY, TEST IS ALL YOU NEED FOR A FEW FIRST TIME CYCLES AND YOU DONT NEED A WHOLE LOT OF IT.
Considering you already ran a TEST and EQ cycle. I would run it again. I don't think you should have started your test at 500mg the First time but to each their own. As I mentioned, you don't need a lot of it when first starting.
Run a 16 week cycle, front load your EQ
This isn't mandatory but i would switch your TEST half way through from TEST C to TEST E or vice versa.
I personally wouldn't add any orals but if you wanted to and you if you want that "lean" look without breaking your wallet, add in Proviron which i think is another underrated compound. First 8 weeks at 50mg, last 8week's at 75mg.
This is just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right or this is what you need to do. In the end you're going to do what you want. Just be careful and think things through and as everyone else mentioned, search search search!
backonroidsSeems a lot of compounds for your first cycle , if you carry on at that rate imagine the amount of gear you'll need to make gains in the future .. Less is more sometimes . Rusty has great experience and advice listen to him / Learn from him
letslift23I hear you. When I got advice from my bodybuilder friend who was in mr.universe and has a few decades under his belt, I asked about eq and winny and he said it wouldn't be to bad. He did tell me less is more though and just cause you go higher doses doesn't necessarily mean better gains. I agree with that. Just a little lost so I'm here asking for some guidance .
Still too young to be using gear , you used to be curlmonkey23, ...21 yr old if I remember correctly with a real shitty attitude.....
Aged a few yrs huh.....
Good catch, and he is 21
backonroidsSometimes going back to basics is the only way to move forward my friend , Diet and training are to key make your goals achievable. Check out the nutrition section on here some brilliant advice on there that will surely help . Try not to get to caught up with the other side of things keep it simple and like you said you came to ask for advice and guidance which is great to hear man ; Just make sure you take on board what people offer and know what's good advice and bad advice . Sorry if I've gone on too much haha
RustyhookerNo such thing as lean mass. You bulk or you cut. Your first cycle was a trainwreck imo. You're underweight. You should post your real diet and gym routine.
letslift23my first cycle a close buddy of mine actually told me to run. Huge 300lb monster who competed in mr.universe so I definitely trusted his word. I want to lose bodyfat and look better so essentially cutting but without losing weight. I just don't want to bulk for summer, I want to look great for summer because of diet/workouts/steroids more aimed for this goal. Not for this cycle but long term goal is 200-210lbs at 8-10% bf. My diet is 200g protein minimum, 300g carbs, 75g fat. Right now I'm doing a 4-1 split for my workout routine
RustyhookerI'd go back to basics. Test 500 a week and anavar at 50mg split.
I'd use magnifying glass up top and find the food gurus. Makwa, medex catalyst etc.
Gym intensity higher. 4 on is good. Get 6 sets with drops or supersets. Minute between sets. It'll shock your system and force growth. With short breaks the weight maybe medium to your norm but the volume will get growth going.
letslift23but heard eq's prime is for 16 week or longer cycles*