posted Fri, 10/12/2018 - 03:36
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I think a good way to get myself used to the forum is sharing what I have in mind it will be my second cycle. I would like to start it the first week in November so I still have time to check your comments and add any logical suggested change.
I was on a basic testosterone cycle around a year ago and in my second cycle I´m thinking about adding some compound:
Testosterone Enanthate @300 mg/week 1-8 weeks
Deca @250mg/week 1-4 weeks
Deca @300 mg/week 5-8 weeks
Dianabol @20 mg/ED 1-4 weeks
PCT: Nolva + Clomid
I have some questions as I still didnt finish my reading about it:
- Is it better to use for this cycle Deca or NPP?
- As I´m injecting less than 500 mg/week Test E, will I need AI? –I had read some late research saying that the risk of gyno when injecting less than 500 mg/week Testostene tent to 0–
- I´m thinking to change Dbol for Equi (@400mg/week) but I dont really think it´s a good idea to start with two new injectable compounds at the same time.What do you think?
Thanks in advance for the attention.
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The Copper MonkeyI know, I know I´ lighter than your soaking dog, your wife and your little sister. I know it. And this is exactly why I want to add some bulking products to the cycle.
Let me explain you from where this weight and this cycle (and the previous one) are coming.
A bit more than a year and a half ago I needed some surgery that didnt allow me to move at all for around 4 months. When I went to the hospital, just before the operation, my weight was 69 kilos.
In those 4 months I lost almost 22 kilos. My weight was less than 50 kilos and I looks awful. I didnt even allow my family and friends to take pictures of my in those times.
A week after I left the hospital I wasnt able to go up three single steps without getting tired. Day after day my body was earning some muscles, enough to allow me walking and doing basic things. Believe me when I´m saying at the beginning the gravity didnt allow me to lift 0.5 kg!
Around 2 months after leaving the hospital the doctor gave me prescription to buy testosterone in the pharmacy in order to recover and to have a regular body and strong enough for living and working sooner as we realised food and training wasnt enough.
I was 3 months in a testosterone cycle injecting 250 mg per week. I was eating like an animal and training 4 days a week. At the beginning I was doing couple of light exercises per each area but I ended with a regular working out (around 45 minutes). After those 3 months my weight went up to 58 kilos. Much better than after the operation but still far away from my 69-70 kilos where I want to be again.
After the cycle I had been almost a year training and eating enough to earn some kilos but I´m now between 59-60 kilos. My BF composition is right now 9%.
Two weeks ago I was talking to the doctor and he told me it´s weird that I hadnt recovered all the kilos I had before the operation. Seeing that I should had put those kilos already he sent me to have some blood test. According to the results he told me that maybe I may need to use steroids again for another 8 weeks and see how my body reacts.
And here is when eroids enters, as I was reading the forum without being registered before starting my first cycle it came to my mind that it will be great not just read you but being an active part in the community.
I had posted the cycle I want to do just for you to check about it and to give me any serious advice about it if possible.
Thanks for the attention :-)
If this is true then I'm sorry for being a prat about your weight man
So you had muscle wasting with your illness. Understandable prescription.
However, you should work to normal first and then learn to eat. Then a lot further down the line when you prove you can eat to build, maybe then consider test again.
Why dont you forget about the roids for a moment and post up your diet? Theres clearly something wrong with it
RustyhookerDILLIGAF?
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/just-do-it-run-that-cycle
Your Doc told you to run a cycle!? LOL
Like you want a show...GTFOH
The Copper Monkey...?? Looks like brass to me on an elephant. Brass Monkey...you funky monkey...
The Copper MonkeyPut your glasses on and check the picture again :-P
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RustyhookerAge: 35
Height: 166 cm
Weight: 59 kg
BF:
Youre trolling?
1) go grab a couple of burgers with fries and a de ssert!
2)repeat number 1 for a year or 2 !!
3)forget about steroids and cycles except (bicycles)
4)post a forum topic and ask about proper training and diet cause if your stats are correct you're doing a lots of things wrong !!
stay safe !!
Rustyhooker^^^^^^
my wife weights more and she ain't fat ...lol
RustyhookerHigh five!
Ran your first cycle a year ago and your sitting at 130lbs . , can I assume you did not maintain any of the weight you gained from the first cycle.
I wouldn't add any compounds past testosterone, you have plenty of weight and muscle to be added to your frame simply from eating more and maybe some test.
Always have an AI on hand Always, Do some research on Proviron it has AI like properties and enhances the effects of Testosterone.
No nandrolone
No EQ
No Dbol
Rustyhookerdont cosign bro. Just say no
I know your right.
sometimes I just cant help myself, dude is a feather weight .
I prefer npp especially if you're going to run a 8wk cycle. Decca will still work but will last longer than the testosterone into your pct.
Use decca if you run a longer cycle.
Always have an AI plus you will need caber or another progesterone cancelling compound on hand for the nor-19 compound especially decca it creeps up and then hits hard.
Better to be prepared than scrambling to stop gyno.
Dbol will be a much better choice.
The other issue is the cycle itself im seeing alot of red flags.
This cycle plan is kinda a mess but that's why you ask questions so im glad that you did.
Keep it simple really does apply.
Also 2nd cycle you could run another testosterone cycle and get good gains. How did your first cycle turn out?
What's the reason for adding on to just testosterone?
Instead of thinking about the compounds to use work harder on researching a strong diet that fits your goals. If you're diet isn't on point your cycle will never get you where you want to be no matter what you take.
Training first
Diet second
Compounds third if needed.
Stick with the first and second then once you are really dedicated to both you can consider adding compounds.
Good luck and good gains brother
According to your first post a week and half ago you stated:
“I´m running now my second cycle and will find the forum where to post it around here”
And now you saying you are not??!!
Ummmmmm. Errrrrrrr. So that means......
Yea. Good luck. And clearly you have not even looked through this site.
Makwa. Created a posting all about first cycles and what not. And second cycle should be mimicking your first one
WTF?
Stats
Age: 35
Height: 166 cm
Weight: 59 kg
BF:
I mean even at 5ft 4.... thats light. That's like... little sister light .....
What the fcuk weight were you before your first cycle????????
Clearly you cannot eat.
Nobody should be giving you cycle advice.
RustyhookerIm 5-4. I crap bigger.
Lol
damn hahahaha
LOL
1000% Agree - I thought the bodyweight was an error. 9 Stone is no Joke....
Aint nuthin but a peanut!! lol
Would like to know how much he weighed before his first cycle also. lol
Hopefully he is only 1% BF. Would still be underweight to warrant a cycle though.
LOL@1%
Yeap, well if he is I need tips LOL
That’s eating only like a meal a day weight
Right?!!!!
I mean... ugh I dunno anymore!!!!
Depends on your goals also - are you aiming to get past certain plateau's in strength or body mass?
What was your first cycle? And why only 8 weeks?
I THINK ITS BEST YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND EDUCATE YOURSELF.
This looks like a disaster with a side of a wet noodle. So many things wrong with this. A couple guys below are on the right track. I can tell you put little research into this cycle.
GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD... or go back to the classic 500mg test E once a week
The Copper MonkeyHi
What you are suggesting is the second option if I dont introduce any new compound to my old cycle: just testosterone but increasing the dose.
Thanks for all the tips. I´ll follow them, absolutely.
The only way youll know for sure about your AI is through blood work.
Thats a terrible idea and you stick with test as your only injectable for the first few cycles. 8 weeks of eq will do absolutely nothing.
RustyhookerSoaking wet he still weighs less than my dogs.....
Personally I run my test 2 times higher than deca. It's only your second cycle. I would probably just run higher test only. Should do the job.
The Copper MonkeyThanks. I had just read about the higher testosterone dose from any other user here and I´m considering this option.
Thanks.
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