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Proviron with or after d bol kick start

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Gents- 1st time posting here and looking for some input on a planned cycle- have all my gear and pct meds, will be 4th cycle - change to previous is 12 weeks of test instead of 10 and addition of d Bol kickstart....

Plan is 750mg test e / week for 12 week, with a 4 week d Bol kickstart, bringing in winstrol & anavar for weeks 10 through 14, start nolvadex, clomid, Daa Pct week 15 through 19.

My main question is should I run proviron from week 1 to pct, or wait till after the d Bol kickstart?

Should also mention will run adex 2.5mg eod and n2guard throughout.

Thanks fellas

Makwa's picture

What are you trying to do with this cycle? Sounds like you are trying to bulk and cut at the same time with the mishmash of compounds you have planned there.

Kahl drogo's picture

Goal is strength with steady sustainable increase in lbm. The dbol is purely as a kickstart and could easily not do it?

Kahl drogo's picture

Decimal point in the wrong place on the adex... It's .25mg eod.

Previous cycles have been sus at 500/ week with var finish, test e 500 / week with Winnie finish and last was test e 500/ week going up to 750/week for middle 4 weeks with a var finish.

Sitting at 235lbs 6'3 14% bf by skinfold. Age 35 and 20 years of solid lifting. Ex pro athlete now retired, hence waiting till now on the gear.

Planned dose for the dbol is 30mg/day wk 1, 40mg week 2-4
Provi 50mg / day throughout
Var 40mg daily to finish and run through to pct
I actually have injectable win rather than oral - although I understand is still very hepatoxic.

Goal of the cycle is strength steady sustainable lean gains - I lift heavy and enjoy that.

Dickkhead's picture

I MIGHT MAYBE understand what you are doing. Some thoughts.

Regarding provi - the enanthate ester begins to cleave from the moment of injection, so if you plan on running provi start day 1 you don't have to wait for the Test E serum level to climb to stasis.

I think finishing the cycle with both winny a and var is overkill. I don't like multiple orals unless its really necessary - you would have 3 - provi, winny, and var. Dbol would actually make 4 orals but there is enough space between the dbol and the others I'm not gonna count it. Drop the winny - Var is a nice finish and dry out from the small test bloat naturally.

Are you really needing 750 mg Test on your 4th cycle bro - what doses have you run on your priors?

Dbol, provi, winny and var planned dosages?

I don't use adex but I think you can start with 0.5mg eod or maybe even lower. Letting your estro climb a bit is a good thing - it will enhance growth.

n2guard is not an optimal liver protectant - run TUDCA with any orals.

BF bro? - I assume you are bulking with the 750 test and dbol- you wouldn't need that on a cut.

But, how bout some confirmation info from you bro. I don't like using my crystal ball to try to figure out what's in your mind. Mine has a crack in it now and I will be pissed if it breaks.

crazymofo's picture

What are your complete stats? And what is the goal of this cycle? Seems to not have a direction just a slew of drugs thrown together.

robb's picture

Research adex doses before you do anything else, 2.5mg eod is a massive dose.

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Justanotherguy's picture

What's your BF% like?