Prop/NPP for second cycle...
I posted a question about my second cycle yesterday. I asked about tbol being the best oral for my goals, which are to lean out, add some strength and not lose too much size that I put on while bulking.
I'm 6'1, 195 lbs, 12% body fat, been training consistently for about 3 years. My diet is pretty clean right now. High protein from Chicken, fish, lean steak, lamb, seafood. Carbs from Whole bread, brown rice and oatmeal only at breakfast and post workout. No booze, no soda, very low diary. Half gallon minimum of water a day.
I really want to avoid water retention on this cycle. I have arimidex on hand and I will use HCG through out the cycle and then use nolva and clomid for PCT. I want to avoid DHT compounds such as Mast because I'm prone to hair loss from them.
After getting a lot of advice, one experienced user suggested NPP. I'm thinking a Prop/NPP cycle for 8 weeks might be my best option. Does anyone have any experience with these compounds together?
Thanks for all your help gents.
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Im running big d pharma npp/ prop 100mg ea eod with no pip bro try it out its amazing. Big d is a great guy. no homo. fast ship easy order. ps im also running his dbol at 50mg ed also weeks 1-5. good luck bro
sorry been away. results are great getting ripped losing bodyfat like crazy. upping my prop to 200 eod and dropping npp to 100 eod
yeah i placed an order with him last week... how have the results been with the NPP?
AnonI like the concept of 8 weeks for your second cycle.. as long as the EOD pinning is something you're down for!
Yeah I know to expect quite a bit of PIP so we'll see how it goes. I'm actually going to try to tough it out and do ED injections.
Anonyou would benefit more from the prop this way
tread-mI don't hate it. Sounds like a plan...eat meat like a lion if you want size. Its 8 short weeks so you have to dial it in and make it count. Buy your cattle by the quarter.......every week! Lol
Ive ran NPP and prop several times, I love this cycle truthfully. without an oral I gain about 10 pounds first month maybe 4 second, lots of meats and couple shakes a day will produce good gains. I would suggest no more than 75mg/d and no less than 35mg/d NPP, and no more than 100mg/d and no less than 50mg/d prop!
That's sound perfect. Thanks for giving a good range on dosage. Would you recommend arimidex and caber straight out of the gate or wait until symptoms of gyno start? I'd prefer to prevent it rather fight once I have it.
Also do you HCG through out the cycle, for pct or not at all?
Thanks for your input!
tread-mI would tell you to just bring the hcg in the last two weeks at a couple 500 hits per week. Just a nice boost no need in my opinion to go apeshit with it....or treadshit with it....
Thanks man. I was looking for a direct answer on the HCG question. I have so many different ideas there. I'll back it off to the last couple of weeks. I got pretty depressed coming out of my last cycle and I felt like recovery took a long time. I'm trying to prevent that this cycle.
id run adex at a low dose of .25 EOD and see what happens, after 4 weeks if you dont got no signs then play with it and see what happens. Ive ran cycles way higher on the test and didnt have any problems without an AI, however half that dose I added deca and got sore nips and a little water retention. So?! with that being said everybody is different and you should always do it on the side of caution.
HCG I have never used, im TRT...
thats a lot of pinning bro
Nasty81NateGoing into my second week on them right kow....check out my thread, may help
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/nastys-cycle