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Pre-loading a Test-E/Tren-E/Mast-E cycle

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45 years old, 6'4 250lbs, and been on the sauce for about 10 years. I usually use short esters, especially when incorporating tren into the mix, but this cycle is overlapped by a vacation and I dont want my levels to fall off a cliff while I'm gone. I'm doing a 16 week cycle, 300mg/ week of Test-E, Tren-E, and Mast-E. I have always had optimal results taking equal doses of each. Any advice on pre-loading the cycle with 300mg/week of Tren-A until the longer ester takes hold? I cruise between cycles on 200mg of Test-E so test levels will already be elevated. It would be nice to kill that long ester lull by jumpstarting the cycle.

Geo.chapin714's picture

Mast and Tren are very harsh on the body! Patience is king brotha. Especially when we reach our age - remember life is a marathon NOT a sprint. If anything I would consider kickstarting it with Anavar. You don’t want your level to be all over the place with tren and end up waking up next to a regret.

I see you mentioned your 250lbs are you under 12-10% because if not then it’s not even worth taking masteron; especially for all the DHT

Ry80's picture

I'm currently at just over 15% bf and cruising on 200mg/week of Test-E. I don't plan on starting my cycle until November 1 so I have some time to drop another 1 or 2 percent. Once my blood levels even out on cycle, the tren will quickly do its job dropping my bf% down to my goal of 10%. I also take a low dose of semaglutide to curb the appetite while cutting. For heart support, I run 20mg/day of Telmisartan and 10mg/day of Lisinopril. I've found that combo puts my BP within normal parameters while on cycle. And, as a precaution, I take 10mg/day of Lipitor to offset any spike in cholesterol. However, when cruising, I only take 5mg of Telmisartan due to my BP being just slightly elevated at my cruise dose.

Regarding tren with mast, I find that mast reduces the tren sides and the pair combined cuts me up like nothing else. Being 45, I do plan on backing away from the harsher compounds soon. Over the last few years, I have decreased my dose of just about every compound I blast. 300mg week of test/tren/mast is considered a borderline low dose cycle. At least compared to what I've ran in the past.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Mast reduces side effects, it's not anything to do with bodyfat for those reasons.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Correct. People don’t stfu ab “well achhuallyyy if you’re not 7% bf mast is useless”. Like, guys, it frees up test and lowers sides in certain ways. It has its place!

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randomdude's picture

I jumpstarted my current cycle of 500 Test E, 400 Mast E, and 400 Tren E with 350mg of Test A, Tren A, and Mast P for a week on top of the long esters. Not sure if it helped or was optimal but wanted to try it. For all I know I’m retarded.

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Ry80's picture

Usually I'll start battling night sweats at about 5 days in of taking acetate. I think I might blast a full 300mg/week of tren ace for the first 2 weeks of the cycle alongside the long esters then take it down to 150-200mg for week 3 then let the long esters takeover. I just don't want to overlap the long esters too much. Otherwise, the tren sides are going to kick my ass. 300-350mg is about all I can take.

randomdude's picture

Sounds like a solid plan. Maybe someone with some more experience with this will chime in as well. Night sweats are the only tren side I get and it’s usually dependent on what I eat in the late evening.

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