Plz help
Hey guys!!
Hopin you guys could help me ive done a lot of research for about two months now have been workin out for 3 years off and on probaly 8 months consistent now at one point was 130 lbs now am at 155 and have not been able to gain the weight ive wanted too i want to get to like 175 so this will be my first cycle diet is good like to work out four times a week now and im bascially sold on doin aas after researching good and bad heres wat my cycle is most likely going to consist of
Week 1-10 250mg test e
Week 1-4 20-25mg d-bol
Wait two weeks until esters have cleared then
Days 1-30 20mg nolva
Now u think ill need an AI with that for my first cycle even tho its 250 of test e and no im most likly not going to do 500 of test a week split into two shots a week for one its a long acting ester so you shouldnt really need two shots a week but more importantly for me i want to start low n work my way up i dont want to do 500 then my next cycle 500 the. I wood have to go either deca or 750 on my third also does any1 use finasteride for balding and prostate enlargment should i consider taking that or no also i know about hcg dont think i should need that for my first cycle n becuz im using a low dosage and kinda freaked out by having to put the shot in your stomach but plz let me no guys i would like to hear more from the guys who are seasoned vets at this type of thing also am open to criticism but not too hard lol bascially probaly putting my order in 2morro morning so the quicker the response are the better thanks guys want to see what you guys have to say so let me leave you guys off on my stats!
Age 23
Height 5-8
Weight 155
Bf% ?? Not sure but i know it cant be that much since im not fat mayb enough to where u cant see my abs but have the v cut below my stomach
Thanks any advice is appreciated
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There's an awesome book titled "BEEF IT" by Robert Kennedy. Give it a read. Glad to hear you are at least sticking with low dosages. Have to agree with couple other guys here and say stay natural for awhile. Focus on diet and training technique to make your gains for now. Once you max out on that, then think about AAS.
Cant grow like a grizzly when you eat like a bird kid.Even with AAS!!
AnonThere's still a WEALTH of gains to be made naturally here! You don't walk into the gym lift for a few months and jump on AAS it just doesn't work like that.... Learn to TRAIN right, learn to EAT right, train like an animal for a few years & most importantly learn your body along the way! If you don't know what works now - how do you expect that to be any different while on AAS? PM me I'll get you started on most importantly a good bulking diet ( I KNOW how to bulk ) and a good routine split tailored to meet your goals. I can share with you some of what I achieved naturally & the timeframe in which I did it... I think you would be absolutely blown away at just how anabolic 4-5000 CLEAN calories a day can make you bro. Do yourself a favor - don't hop on AAS yet!
If you do against all reason then what body transformation recommended below IS a good layout.... although I'd very much so encourage you to learn your body as well as learn how to eat properly before wasting your money on AAS.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/first-cycle-plan-for-un....
"weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week
weeks 1-14 0.25mgs adex -opinal-
i am a firm beliver of adex as it keeps estrogen in check keeping away any huge bloat and gyno ,it also keeps the hpta from takeing a total bashing giving a speedy recovery)
pct -
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25
thats a basic nice first cycle that will yield good gains as long as your diet/training and rest are in good order."
Thanks to Frankie!
Viking did an awesome diet post for youngsters mate... Ide start there
Nail that first... then look into gear. (theres plenty of time)
Coz you can push steroids down ya throat and up ya arse.. but if ya cant nail the diet, you wont grow.
Do you know where I can find that awesome diet post,very interested as I am in a similar boat
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/first-cycle-plan-for-un....
Thank you
I have to agree with sgtstedanko, you're still young to be thinking about hitting the juice to grow, Mate.
And as mikuhlt21 says, 250mg's of Test a week is NOTHING.
BUT.... I started at the ripe old age of 24, after lifting for almost 1 1/2 years and not seeing any results for my convictions. I weighed in at 162lbs when I started my first cycle.
Just to make you laugh, I took 2 Pronabol 5 tabs a day, for 3 months. THAT was it. Nothing else. Result? I OBVIOUSLY saw even less than what you are seeing.
Second cycle? (Because I'd spoken to a GREAT Ex-Mr Universe champion about what I wanted to do and why).
750mg Test E a week for 12 weeks.
1/2 an Anadrol 50 a day for the first 4 weeks, upping the dose to a full tab for another 4 weeks. 8 weeks TOTAL.
Combined with a high protein diet.
Results? I gained nearly 30lbs in body weight, my lifting amounts vastly improved and I felt like a million bucks because I was FINALLY seeing results, not only for my convictions, but for the finances I was investing too.
I can't be hypocritical and tell you that you should wait a few years before you start your next cycle, because I wouldn't have listened to me either at your age. I was going to do it no matter what ANYONE said. But I will advise you to do it right, instead of wasting not only your time, your money, but your health too.
Research the juice you are wanting to take in your next cycle, research the recommended dosages for each item for your age and frame and don't think that you more take the bigger you'll get, because it DOESN'T work that way.
That would be TOO easy.
Just trying to help keep you safe, Mate.
sgtstedankoBrother, you're still growing. Stop thinking of steroids as thr only way to add mass. & start to research work in the kitchen. Fucking eat, dude. Eat well & lift. Lather, rinse, Repeat! You are not even close to being ready to cycle.
AnonStill a little light in weight man. Maybe because of your body type.
But before everyone begins going crazy, first cycle should always be TEST only. Either Cyp or Ena. Test wouldnt help at 250. 500 a week is what you need. standard pct with nolva is 40/40/20/20. You could do 100 mg on first day.