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Hey fellas I’m looking for opinions...how would u run the cycle and pct?
4 bottles of sust. 250
100 dbol @ 10mg
10,000 iu of hcg
50 aromasin @ 20mg
150 clomid @ 50mg
100 nolva @ 20mg
Just curios Thanks lads
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Hey Bud - I seem to remember this is your 3rd cycle isn't it?
ChoadSecond cycle big dog, but not set in stone. I’m in no rush...
I would go with 500mg/wk Sust for 12 wk's with 30/40mg Dbol for first 4 to 6 weeks. You'll probably of had enough pill popping by the end of week 4 Lol
ChoadHell yea bro that’s what I figured!! What’s ur thought on the hcg? Run on cycle or start 2weeks after and go 2 weeks into pct? I’ve been seeing different opinions on the clomid...some say 150/100/50/50 and others say 50/50/50/25...the “research” on here seems like opinions I guess what I’m asking is for a generalization. I know everyone is different and I’ll fine tune it just wanted to have more than enough of everything....orderd pct first but never been accused of being smart...thanks again press1 for the patience!
Lol Press isn't the best dog to ask about PCT - Sam or Pin should have you covered on that front. I think its more a case of how well you tolerate Nolva and clomid as to how you go about it. Many hate clomid sides.
Sam knows nothing about pct.
Probably why I’ve been on trt so many years.
Good thing I like needles...
If it was me you wouldn’t have enough gear.
If this is your first cycle you got the wrong gear.
As far as AIs go unless you’ve done this a lot your going to need pre, mid and post bloodwork to dial that in.
I’m personally not a fan of AIs unless there definitely needed.
But that’s me...
ChoadHell yea...I planned on the bloods for sure and using the ai as needed just wasn’t sure how much would be plenty to have on deck..thanks for the feed back boss!
If I had a dollar for every person here that asked for advice, said they were gonna do bloods before starting, then started without the bloods because they got their cosign, I would be retired living on my own island.
Go get your bloods drawn and see what your base is; otherwise overkill the itchy nipples by popping letro, aromasin, adex, and hcg and blame it on high estrogen when all it was was your shirt rubbing against them.
ChoadIf I had a doller for every person that mis read my post I’d have $2 towards my test purchase!! Lmao...
Definitely getting bloods before..I’ve orderd my pct already...haven’t ordered test yet...like I said earlier im in no hurry...thanks for the opinion tho...
Did I miss the part in your post where you said you were getting bloods drawn first? Cart before the horse,
Did you also research pct properly or did you just buy everything? You don't need both nolva and clomid and if you get aromasin dosed at 20 mg per I would return them, 25mg is the normal. Most PCT's can be done with either nolva OR clomid not both, HCG is if you plan on running longer than 12 weeks because they will start to say goodbye longer than that.
Get your bloods drawn, then make your order for your cycle. Do it right and make better gains. Take shit you dont need and piss them away.
ChoadThank you kindly my good man!! Now that is excellent advice...I found a good deal on the clomid and nolva so I stocked up....I can find test at the gym but seems no one ever has pct to part with...as for the hcg i feel it’s better to have it on hand and not need it than need it and not have it...I don’t plan on going crazy with the gear just enough to get the job done....anyhow I honestly didn’t know getting blood test
Weeks prior to pin was ok...I figured days before was the way to go...thanks again
If you get them done before you can see what your baseline is to know if you need to start an ai off the bat or you can wait. Best money you'll spend.
ChoadIndeed!! I just didn’t want to spend the cash until I had everything in hand just in case Order didn’t arrive on time or shit happend...so my question now is how much would it fluctuate in a month or two if that were the case? But I do plan on knowing everything there is to know before I start...I’m pretty thorough I eat grass fed/finished beef soy free organic eggs and only organic complex carbs and only natural sugar from organic fruit...I’m on top of nutrition and I’ll know the ins and outs of aas before I partake...I learned the hard way with LSD...lmao
It shouldnt fluctuate much if at all unless you change your diet and rest before the cycle
ChoadHell yea...ima Get Er done this next payday and I’ll post the results...Thanks for the knowledge
Bro you posted this, he gave you his opinion.
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If you’ve got thin skin your on the wrong site.
ChoadOpinion? All he said was get bloods done after I already stated I was going to in a previous reply to you!.....thin skin? Hah! never me lol I’ma fuckn roughneck..talkn shit is what I do to pass time big man!!
Wtf is a roughneck
Lol +2
ChoadWe drill oil-wells boss!! They have a few tv shows and many movies,sum filmed not too far away... but yeah we just bust ass and talk shit all day...when we get a new guy we talk about fuckn his mom and whatever else tryna get him to quit lmao it’s fucked up but if u stick it out ur family... reminds me a bit of eroids lol!
Nice. Post a picture of mom or better yet Granny : )
Choadonly pics I got of my mom are nudes is that alright?
I can see you 2 becoming best pals Lol - Sam works in the Mines mate!
Sam worked in a Coalmine.
However it was Union. I guess you could call it work.
Last few years I was an examiner (fireboss)
I just wrote up work orders and safety violations. Took air readings and gas checks
Fed the rats...
ChoadHell yea
ChoadAhh fuckn aye!! I’ve always wanted to work in a coal mine and try my hand shrimp boat fishin...those and oilfield are in the top 10 deadliest jobs...my kinda guy...NO HOMO!
PcushionMe personally the sust would be 500mg/wk for 20 weeks.
The HCG would be utilized during the washout period prior to pct.
Nolva I would use during he cycle for E2 control
Aromasin and clomid during pct
ChoadWould u blast 1000+ iu of hcg then 500 eod or just keep it all the same dose?
PcushionHaven’t done the math to see how long your HCG supply lasts, but I like running 125 IU2x a week for the entire cycle or 250 IU2x a week during the washout.
Nolvadex doesn’t control estrogen, it just blocks in breast tissue.
Having said that, it’s still what I prefer on cycle for several reasons.
1. I’m not real estrogen prone and actually prefer mine elevated with my test.
2. It’s actually good for your cholesterol vs AIs which jack your hdl.
3. I’m old af and set in my ways.
PcushionI reference control estrogen because if used correctly an AI or SERM both control unwanted estrogen effects. Two different mechanisms of action yes.
Reasons 1,2,3 are why I use nolva on cycle.
It’s estrogenic in the liver which promotes positive lipid values
Gains are better with higher E2
The body likes balance. When you jack up androgen levels the body tries no balance itself out. Nolva allows it to do this while inhibiting unwanted effects.
Wow! your a brave one, aren't ya?
Hang around and do some research on first cycles.
Unless there will be some one to go fetch a spoon will they?
ChoadAs you can see from Sam I am and pcushions reply there was a difference in opinion... that’s all I was askin for..not spoon feeding lol....ain’t u ever raised your hand at school?
PcushionI like your style brother.
ChoadThanks big man your knowledge is much appreciated...
So take the gear and pct that you bought. Figure out what you would do with it. Then say hey this is what I think I should do and ask for criticism. Then it looks like you are doing research. Why would you want to do what I do. Are we the same age size or goal oriented? Do we have the same experiences? Its not one size fits all. Sams like 60 years old and pcushions afucking monster. I'm neither, so how can we give you advice with this uninformed cluster of gear?
ChoadI didn’t ask for advice just opinions...I know everyone is different but realize there’s a common thread in most all pct’s..I’m sure I’ll make changes after bloods....Really don’t wanna start the cycle then ask for criticism....press1 and I had the same ideas for the sust and dbol...maybe that’s a sign of research...
See that is easy. Just do the research. You will succeed.
That is my opinion
He's a Good lad mate - We've spoke in PM a bit
Hows the "sust" make up. Is it real sust or just some test blend? does he know he will have to pinn it ED . Does he know the difference with his reaction to a fast ester test then add the dball? Don't let him hurt him self. From the sound of it he's a good kid
Its not the usual make-up - Its more longer ester based. I've used it a few years ago, UK lab made.
I never understood those
ChoadBeen doin research on first cycles!! Already done test only cycle...research said add dbol for second cycle...is this wrong? Didn’t plan on doin 50mg a day! Figured 30mg for 4 weeks would be fine...anyhow thanks for the opinion mr.G...
What are your goals for this cycle. Seems you already have a plan. What were the reasons for buying the gear you bought?
Have you stopped getting gains from test only?
ChoadNah boss I’ve only done sust and it was nice, got chiseled but now I’m tryna move up a weight class or two for boxing...they’ve got me sparring a guy who’s 25lbs heavier and lots more experienced!! Fucker try’s ko punching every time!! Still can’t drop me tho!