Next Cycle Advice
43 male, this will be my second cycle, first was a 16 week test e 500mg a week cycle. 5'8 200lbs about 10%bf, long lifting history, got great result last cycle, diet is great. This cycle I wanted to add Tren to the test cycle. here is what I have outlined. Any advice on tren will be great.
CYCLE
Week Test E mg per week Tren E mg per week Exemestane 25mg HCG Bloodwork
0 250mg Mon/Thur 200mg Mon/Thur As needed 250 iu Mon/Thur LABS
1 500 400 12.5 500
2 500 400 12.5 500
3 500 400 12.5 500
4 500 400 12.5 500
5 500 400 12.5 500
6 500 400 12.5 500
7 500 400 12.5 500 LABS
8 500 400 12.5 500
9 500 400 12.5 500
10 500 400 12.5 500
11 500 400 12.5 500
12 500 400 12.5 500
13
14
15
16
POST CYCLE THERAPY
Week Nolvadex (PM) Clomid (DAY)
10mg Tabs Daily 50 mg Tabs Daily
17 40 75
18 40 75
19 20 50
20 20 50
21 20 50
22
23
24
25
26
27
28 LABS
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
RustyhookerSecond cycle, i wouldbt be hitting 2 oils. Simple test and prop. Or test provi.
16 weeks is overkill on first cycle too. Guys below gotcha
How about just test and really concentrate on your diet? If you feel the need to add something then perhaps at the end an oral to finish up.
RustyhookerBoom
Thank you, that is what my plans are now, Thats why I love this board and members
just glad I posted my question here and didn't make a mistake with adding it in, I would rather get told something I was about to do it stupid as opposed to doing something stupid lol
Yup, same here. I've gotten very good, smart advice from guys here. Probably saved myself a lot of trouble and I have been extremely happy with the results I have gotten.
You definitely don’t want Tren. You really need to research some more my friend & especially negative sides that can be very much real! If everything is on point, test will be an excellent 2nd Cycle. At the very most, add in an oral like anavar or tool at the end or beginning.
Thank you, Tren is out, not even considering it anymore after the feedback I just got and want to say thank you for the advice! I will redo the cycle with Test only since it worked well. How long at the beginning and end would you recommend going? a week or two? until the test is fully kicked in?
It depends on which oral you go with. If you are gonna cut, adding anavar in the last 6 weeks would help you a lot. Winny would possibly dry you out too much & the joint pain is rough. If you were to use tbol at the beginning, I’d run it 4 weeks as a kicker.
BOGWay to soon to be running Tren brother. The reason I say that is because So can use other compound or just test a get great gain with out putting all that damage on your body cuz no matter what you here Tren is gone to put miles on your body.
RustyhookerNice...
BOGThanks
I appreciate the advice, Would Mast E and Test E be ok? I was looking at the cutting blends and they all contained Tren, I researched it and know its strong, and am just in the begining phases of planning the next cycle so I will rule out Tren, Searching for something good to stack with the Test for a good cut cycle and Mast and Winnie is 2 others I am looking at. Any good recomendations?
BOGI would keep at at just the Test. But I would really work on getting the most out of my diet and workouts. Trust me when I say the better the diet the better the gains it doesn’t matter how much you take if that diet isn’t on point you want see much.
Sorry the formatting messed up on the post
weeks 1-12
Test E 250mg 2xWeek total 500mg Week
Tren E 200mg 2xWeek total 400mg Week
HCG 250 iu 2xWeek total 500iu Week
AI As needed
PCT
Week 17-21
Nolvadex (PM) week 17,18 40mg/Day week 19-21 20mg/day
Clomid (DAY) week 17,18 75mg/Day week 19-21 50mg/day
Labs Week 0,6,27
Second cycle and you think you need to use tren? What’s the reasoning behind this?
I would say this belongs in the cycle logs,
Why the 5wk wait to pct? No mention of da, diet, training schedule, bloodwork, end goals, ....
Going to need a lot more info to convince me this is a good idea, ....for now i say it’s garbage and reckless
What would be a good substitute instead of Tren? I would like to do a cutting cycle, Diet is within macros for maintaining, for training I lift 6 days a week, bloodworks been done before, 1/2 and 4 weeks after pct last cycle, just ran them and everything has recovered, last cycle ended in june this year.
Cutting is all about nutrition manipulation and workouts.... period!....read up on cutting diets, macro adjustments, timing..... there is more than enough info here on this.....look up meddx, makwa, and look thru their forums.... drugs are not the answer here my friend , so put in the work, gain some insight on nutrition, and get it done
Rustyhooker^^^^^^yes!
Test.... test is all you need for a second cycle unless you wanted to add an oral. If all you’ve said is correct, you will do fine with test
I can do that, I got great results on Test alone and can repeat the same cycle I did before, I know I will respond well to it and know what to expect now and believe I will get even better results if I did it again. I had a bit of learning the first time with diet and training that I can improve on this time. Would it be more advisable to just repeat that cycle or to also add a oral like winny, TBol, Dbol? ect.