Newbie in the Desert-help!!!
Hey guys. I'm in a big, boring desert. I used to eat a ton and sit around and play Xbox. I was 5'10", 270 lbs. None of it muscle. So I decided to make a change and with no gnc, no supplements, just an incline, decline, and flat bench, some hand barbells and a curl bar (and a big dry lake to run around) I got down to 180 of decent build.
And I fell in love with lifting.
So now, I wanna start my 1st cycle and I'm researching what I can but our internet sucks out here and when it does connect, the websites I research are mostly hocking their own wares. Out here its super limited what I can get my hands on, so I was hoping I could tell you what I can get, what I want, and you could offer advice on a cycle, calorie intake, etc...
Cut/Mass: I want to gain a little in the chest and shoulders, but I run everyday and am trying to lean down my bf% for that elusive 6 pack. My bf% is about 17% and dropping.
Out here I can get:
Masterbol
Primobol
Test P
Decca
Clen(oral)
Tren(oral)
Win(oral)
Guys, please, please help me. I know I'm a new and this is my 1st post, but I don't wanna jack myself up or waste $ being a retard, and I'm not so arrogant as to think my stupid ass isn't capable of pulling both off at once.
Thanks guys.
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What? so you dont got a mailman? PO box?
Use the eyeglass, search first cycle, proper pct protocol. If you can't get what you need to achieve these very basic but needed compounds, don't run anything.
Hitman187yes i agree with redmenace if thats all you can get DO NOT run a cycle. you need an ai and proper pct. pct is the most important part of any cycle. without a proper pct your just wasting your money, and you will end up loosing all your gains. not to mention you will struggle to recover, and risk permanently damaging your hpta.
even if you get your pct in order i would like to see you get your get your bodyfat a bit lower before jumping on cycle. running gear with high bodyfat percentage can cause many health problems. the risk of estrogenic sides are really high, you risk high blood pressure, and many other unwanted sides. work on getting down to atleast 13-14% before jumping on.
once your bodyfat is in check, and you've thoroughly researched and understand all the substances your about to take, plus you have everything you need for your cycle and a lil extra beforehand, you should be ready to make the plunge. forget most of the compounds on your list. most of them are more geared towards cutting, and for most cutting compounds you wanna be sub 10%, or you'll just end up wasting your money. around here we always recommend test e only for a first cycle. even test cyp would be fine if thats what you can get. with the longer estered version you only have to pin 2x a week, it helps get your body used to the gear and pinning. you can run test e for 12 weeks @ 500mg/wk. if your diet and training is in check you can make great gains in muscle mass and decrease your b/f some. also getting blood work before, mid, and after cycle would be a smart move so you can guage where everythings is at, and you know whats going on inside you.
Hey Kingsley, I think everyone would love to help but, are you saying, that list you put up is the only things you can get your hands on?
If those are the only things, please re-consider doing anything, what you have here isn't equipped enough to run a proper cycle. You aren't able to get the necessary PCT items. (Post cycle treatment)
Without proper PCT, just say goodbye to all the work you already put in (like losing all that weight). It could turn out really bad for you. This is a warning. Just want to help!
First of all, great job losing that 90 pounds. That's pretty damn good, particularly that you did it full natty. You definitely should read the forums on eroids that the guys below pointed out. That will help a lot.
But here are some quick guidelines for you:
-Run a testosterone-only cycle your first time. Don't mix in any other compounds, so that you will know exactly how the testosterone is affecting you. The first cycle is tons of fun, so you really only need testosterone.
-The rule of thumb is that you only add one new compound at a time, so on your second cycle you could consider adding something extra to the testosterone. Maybe mast, deca or winny.
-Stay away from tren for a while - it's not something any beginner should mess with.
-You will need to show us a diet/nutrition plan so that we can help you get the most out of your cycle.
-Lastly, you should check out the sources who are verified by eroids. That way, you can be somewhat confident that the gear you are getting is legit.
Get your bloods done before you run anything.
What am I looking/watching for in bloods?
Go here: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/
See all the yellow highligted topics. READ. This will show you what to do. Once you do, come back and post up what you think is a solid first cycle. (HINT: Test-E or C, AI, PCT, that's it).
Thanks so much!!
Run 50mg ed test P 1-10 weeks
Then 20mg ed nolvadex 11-14
Not good advice at all. How about doing some research on beginning cycles before you start advising others.
ED pinning for a first cycle? PCT is incomplete, bad advice
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Research then come back with a proposed cycle explaining why you chose what you did and we'll try and help. No spoon feeding
Sorry.
Like I said, research is hard on this connection.
Soooo slooooooow.
From what I've seen, I'm thinking:
Wk 1-16: 500mg Test P weekly(cuz you gotta cycle with test for a thousand reasons, no hard shutdowns, boost, gains)
Wk 1-16: 500mg Decca weekly (for joints and build)
Wk 8-16 500mg Masterbol weekly(to harden what I'm building)
Wk 4-16 500mg Primobol weekly (to cut a little what I'm building)
ED 1 oral Clen as a bronchodilater and fat trimmer
ED 1 oral Win for a little gain boost.
How's that?
This is a worrying sight, I'm dumbfounded that you'd even come up with all this.
I'd happily advice you but seeing that you've just joined today and your first post is this mess, it's clear you've done no real research, it's a kamikaze cycle, I mean how would you even know what was doing what.
Use an alternative Internet connection if yours is slow, it's in your own best interest to learn as much as possible about all aspects, not just gear.
This probably seems a little harsh reading this from your point of view, but it's for your own benefit. There's a safety protocol on eroids and for good reason.
Absolutely. I didn't come up with it on my own. My dumbass workout buddy has cycled before and he was like "if we do this, it'll be great..." Which is why I deferred to you...more intelligent people before I just followed him. This dosage was his suggested cycle for me. :/
WAY to much for your first cycle. Dont know where you got that plan, but it's too much. 1 compound only first cycle, I'll let you figure out what that is
Do you have a suggestion? Or "this is what I'd do"?
Test only. With proper A/I's and PCT