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-1 New Low Dose Tren Cycle

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I have not taken Tren in about 10 years so I’m going to start slow and low. I would like to here people views on their own cycles at what is the minimum dose to that they have seen a result. My goal is lean body mass. Not looking for a classic bull here. I am looking to gain size but staying lean. Not going to be pounding 4k calories here. I am maintaining a 2900 calorie limited carb diet.
I will be partaking in a cycle that consist of
S4 @50mg weeks 1-4
Sustanon @ 500mg weeks 1-16
Tren Enanthate @200mg weeks 1-10

JFit253's picture

You will gain size naturally if you have been away from the gym for awhile. It will be like newbie gains all over again without taking anything.

If you must take something, I recommend dropping the s4 and tren. Run Test at 300mg and let your nutrition/training shine

Makwa's picture

Been out of the gym for awhile, then work out naturally and let muscle memory do it’s part. Once you hit plateau then run cycle. Totally unwarranted right now. Would be a waste of cycle running it now.

S4 is for strictly cutting. Don’t see any use for given your goal.

MacJones's picture

35yo 5’11 195 11%bf
I have ran several Tren cycles in the past. Up to 600mg weekly. Run test with most of my cycles @600 mg. I am recovering (recovered now) from a hernia surgery gone wrong. Been away from the gym for a year. Lost 29 pounds of so of muscle. Trying to put it back on now.
I have not cycled in 5 years. Clean receptors.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

It's usually not good idea to have a SARM in your cycle unless it's just test around 200mg and a SARM. Because sarms binding affinity for the androgen receptors is much greater than steroids. Tren is actually kinda considered a SARM/steroid because of it's selective muscle tissue properties and.high binding affinity to the AR. I've never heard of anyone putting a SARM and tren in a cycle together. I know tren has a high binding affinity also but I can't tell you if it's.high enough for the SARM not to be hogging the androgen receptor. Other people are going to tell you to ditch the SARM completely but me personally I think some sarms can be used effectively for certain things.

MacJones's picture

In all of my research I have not found the link between Tren/S4. The tren was gifted to try so I was throwing it in. Thank you very much for the clarity. How do you feel about s4 week 1-4
Tren e week 4-14

FlemDaddyKush's picture

That would probably be better than running them together. When running sarms don't do anymore than 300mg test a week. Maybe a week or 2 before your starting the tren you can start to up the dose for test. If you haven't ran s4 before be aware of the night vision/yellow eyesight side effect, but s4 is a very mild sarm. If you want to use a SARM for cutting/lean muscle s23 is a much better option but people do use s4 cutting so it's your personal option. But if you have been out of the gym for a while you should stay off everything for a while but if you must run a cycle just do a test cycle to start out.