posted Sat, 09/17/2011 - 23:55
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Need advice from eroids Guru...1st timer
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hi, will appreciate a knowledgable advice on my 1st future cycle.
My stats
6ft,4 inches tall 220lb with less than 10% body fat.
Training for around 20 yrs on& off
40yrs active male.
Plan cycle ( not trying to mess with water weight & guess @ 40yrs I am patient for a slow solid lean keepable gain.)
My stash--2 bottle of lixus t Bol
2 lixus test 400
6 lixus Primobolan
Week 1-6 .. 30mg t-Bol split in btw d day
Week 1-12. --400 of lixus test 400 .5ml. twice a week
Week 1-12 ... 500 of lixus primo 2.5 ml twice a week
Will leave suggestion and ideas on PCT to the good people of eroids.
Thanks people all input/ suggestion highly appreciated.
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You cannot run the test for 12 weeks with 2 10ml vials (which lixus are in), good to see you throw in some liv support with the oral
AnonThat is sarcasm by the way.. listen to these guys, and stick with a clean diet and Test E cycle. I don't like the concept of running multiple compounds on your first run, especially with some long esters that'll be stuck in your body.. you have NO idea how you will react to them. In the end, its ultimately up to you..but all we can do is give you advice.
AnonThis is your first cycle..maybe you should add tren, winny, and maybe some masteron too....
Yeap a week to go on a 12week t-Bol,test p & primo cycle. All lixus product
Up dosage on week 7 on test p to 200.x 3 inject a week
Up primo to 250x3 inject a week from week 8. Solid gain & power in the gym. ..
Gain remain same from week 7-8 around 15lb,body all hard with fat melting off PAC
Sex drive still top notch. No Adex use after week 4.
Finally increase primo to 300 x 3 a week from week 10. Advice from a sport med.
Realize you need to dose as per body weight so for a 6ft 4 with starting weight of 220 plus average dose should be higher than for a 180 5'10 dude.
Just like in a car a gallon might get a v4 car 25 miles but for a v8 to get that far maybe 2 gallon or so...uhmm guess that was easy to think in the first place.
So finally a week to go 18 - 20 lb gain. No single sign of water retention an increase of 1.5 inches in biceps, almost 1 inch in calf and body sculpt and super solid.
Thanx all your..
No side or any reaction couple of acne here and there but nothing too major ..
Food wasn't on point many times but training was .. Damn hella hard to shove that much food into a body .. Damn ... Ended up with liquid calories to catch up.
Sure gain could have been more if I can get my body to eat that much..
Looking forward to pct and weeks after
Might wait a bit and try get pharma grade primo and run test p & priimo again for the last time with food on point then throw in towel on gear for good.
Appreciate all you guys.
Happy holidays & yah all stay blessed
So stepping on the 4th week on lixus product, so far gain of 10 pounds first 2 wks--- has been coasting around that weight all week 3..
No bloating or what have u... Thou Adex here & there so look more like solid 10 lbs.( in my novice mind)
Increase T-Bol dosage to 50mg starting the 4th week
Power off the roof & Bad boy on alert always ready to tear d sh-t up if u know what mean.
Putting in lot of cardio as well.
Couple of initial pip first week but nothin starting 3rd week
Have to control myself from overtraining .... One of them oil turning me to a ferocious beast in the gym...
From knowledge gain from eroids guess that would be the test p.
Thanx people.
So after picking Brains from dear Eroid Gurus.. First injection yesterday for a 12 week hopefully keepable gains.
Cycle
Week 1-6 40 mg lix T- Bol
Week 1-12 lix test P 150ml .x 3. M/W/F
Week 1-12 lix primo 200 ml x. 3. M/W/F
Week 2-12. Adex .25- .50 EOD
Week 2- 6 liv 52 EOD
Week 4 & week 8... 250 of hcg.
Start weight 230lb less than 10 Bf
Protein shakes & creatine
Thanks to u all , will update stats every two weeks
Really appreciate all u guys..
Yah all stay blessed
After pinning ..Hot pad & febreeze. Can roll on spot as much as needed
AnonThis is a very nice cycle bro i am sure you will get some awesome results. Let us know how you get on. Leave the creatine for pct btw it is useless on cycle, just eat tonnes of read meat instead. Also you only need liv52 for while you are taking tbol and that is optional as well.
After more research & picking brains from dear eroid users.. I am looking to running 12 weeks cycle
Week 1-6 40mg T-Bol
Week 1-12 Lixus Test P .75ml. 3x a week
Week 1-12. 500 of lixus Primo 2.5ml twice a day
Aim is to stay Away as far as possible from water retention & have keepable gains...
Thanks for the feed back
Thanks a lot people, really appreciating & learning from the great feedback. Will step up my game on d PCT stuff,really appreciate your time & contribution.
Thanks Rods.. Thinking on that route with the lixus test thing you suggested , Kindly advice on a better Test you recommend ...
Thanks hllwdbdboy for the tip as well as 96vette96. & to Mr tread-m thanx for ur time & input & to put things straight am not out to correct any age issue, I think I hold mine very well when it comes to that -:)), but thanx for ur time & no hard feelings from this end.
tread-mWhile I see your direction I dont understand the pct .....you will not correct your age issue with cycles and pct or not you will drop way back down post pct...I work a little outside the box for some but you are either cruise or blast and cruise age...you will have nice end results followed by disappointments and those can include depression given you are either currently low T or low norm unless you are way outside the norm. I would rather see HRT for you or blast and cruise...its a long haul thought process and I'm afraid you are not thinking far enougb ahead for long term success. Even given the fact you will probably do as you will I would begi n to think long term after this cycle and look to get a good sjupply of prop and HGH/T-4 and think about stability in the hbormone loop....mucb better idea to think about reversing the clock as opposed to just lookming towards today.....best of luck, my 2c
AnonI think you choose the wrong test bro. There is no benefit with pinning t400 twice a week. Due to the prop you should pin at least 3* a week. But you will still gain
Also if it is lixus tbol we are talking about i would suggest you hit at least 40mg then go up to 50mg (optimal dose) and then 60mg if the back pumps allow you.
Your pct starts at week 14: 40/40/20/20 nolva should work just fine for you
Also keep some arimidex on hand cause you never know with test, although primo is supposed to have a high affinity on the aromataze so you might not need it at all.
0.5mg adex eod or e2d wont do any harm. Are you prone to mpb btw? Primo can cause alopecia and in general it is tough on the scalp. I would get some finasteride if i was you. Good luck and keep us updated
Hi rods thanx for d knowledgable advice... Wish test in ur experience will serve the purpose without adding water weight & what dosage do u suggest . ( am not trying to blow out big time just some additional steady muscles that won't make people start turning heads too much at work )
Will up my tbol to 40 as advised
Agreed!
Also, since this would be your first cycle, MOST of steroid nation would agree that a simple straight test cycle is best (a "kicker" is fine) simply for the reason that if you begin to experience sides you know where they are coming from, hence you'll know how to treat them.
and also keep in mind that gains are strongly determined by diet and training - AAS is NOT magic