posted Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:09
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My First stacking Cycle
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This will be my 4th cycle. I have only ran test e in those cycles but now I am wanting to add Deca Duro to this cycle with Test E. This is what I am looking on doing in this cycle. See below
week 1 and 2 Test E at 500 a week and the rest of the weeks till the 12th week will be at 750.
Deca Duro at 400 all during the 12 week cycle.
Nolva after the cycle is complete.
I am 5'10 180 lbs athletic built. Goal is to put on little more muscle mass. (not the body builder look) not that there is any thing wrong with that look.
To you veterans do I need to add anything or take away anything. I am still learning the roads.
Thanks for you help guys!!!
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There's lots of quality help here for you but you need to do a little more work. 19nor research (prolactin) Your pct is not standard pct which is what we recomend on this site at a minimum. And 4 cycles deep 5'10" you need to learn how to eat, my guess is you lack a proper diet wether you want a body build or physique you should weigh more. your 3 inches taller then me and I got 20-25 lbs on ya and I'm in a semi cut at 3500-4500 cals a day. And one other thing Pin_Cusion is on point why go to 750mg's? What is the theory here?
yeap i strongly agree on the diet thing. The reason for 750mg is because in my first cycle i did 500 but in the rest of my cycles i did 750 (cause a veteran suggested it) and I liked it. But all in all it comes down to my diet. I will do 500mg after talking with you guys! plus a little more studying
Thanks guys!
I agree with vhman below. Your diet has to be holding you back. I was 215 lbs and 16% bf when I decided to try gear. I wasnt aware of eroids then and my first cycles were trash due to no pct. Didnt keep my gains. Now Im on my first educated cycle and up to 230 lbs in 5 weeks. Gonna keep it this time with a proper pct!
After three cycles, you should be well above where you are now. This points to a lack in your diet. You need to lock this down before you even thing about running this cycle. Otherwise your just wasting gear and endangering your health.
Set some finite goals and search out some diets here (eroids, google, etc.) that will match what you want.
You are absolutely right my diet needs working. I have also decided to become strict on that issue upon starting. Thanks!
Diet is not something you do upon starting. It should be a lifestyle
RustyhookerTruth! Foods me everything to growth and keeping gains
Why 500 the first 2 then run 750? 500 is plenty. I think you need to research Deca some more. You mention nothing for prolactin control, and your PCT in insufficient. Study up a little more then come back with what you found.
AnonAgree with PCUSH on this all the way..
IMO i think running 300mg of test eth or cyp and 300mg of deca each compound divided into to injections per week is plenty.. Deca gets under minded so much in how strong of a compound it really is and the gains you achieve from it when you actually train hard and diet correctly. Also Caber or Prami is a must of your planning on breaking girl's back's this summer lol. I mean yes lifting is great for your mental health as well as your physical but lets not forget fellas another HUGE motivator is looking good for the ladies and if we are not able to perform our duties as alpha males and break head boards in the mix as well as having are ABS looking super flexed out while in the process were not achieve the true goal yet.... Back to this cycle to sorry i ponder in la la land at times... You will also need an AI for your on cycle support i suggest running Adex at .5mg EOD as well as proviron @ 25mg ED. Pct you will need nolva and clomid both must be run for 4 weeks each clomid @ 100/100/50/50, nolva @ 40/40/20/20, if you chose caber which is what i prefer over prami run caber @ .5MG EOD
300+300 test/deca ratio is way wrong........... and you did not mention it needs to be dropped 2wks before the test cycle ends.
Cmon............. its ALL in the details here.
Anonshit, i fuck me life i did forget to add the drop off the 2 weeks before shit.. But viking the 300/300 ratio you say is all wrong all i am not by any means saying you are incorrect, you are who i learn most of my knowledge from but i dont want you to take this the wrong way but my buddy just finished the same cycle i posted above he ran it for 12 weeks 300mg deca/ 300mg test cyp with caber, adex etc.. Everything i listed above and he loved it and no issues from it. So being that i worked out with him everyday while on cycle and saw his gains as well as discussed on a regular basis how his cycle was going, if noticed any sides? if so what were they and were they bad etc... That is why is suggested this cycle dosage.. AGAIN please do not think i am by any means saying your are incorrect and i am correct that is not at all what i am stating. Please do not get the wrong impression i am being disrespectful towards you or undermining all the knowledge you carry. But why is that ratio wrong as am i constantly trying to learn more and more each day on this subject.
Dang bro, we are here to teach the proper use of chemicals. My strongest recommendation to you is this: if YOU - YOU PERSONALLY - haven't used a compound OFTEN ENOUGH to be INTIMATELY familiar with it, don't comment. Let someone else comment. If I'm going to advise someone who has never run deca, I will tell them to run twice as much Test to give the guy the best chance possible of minimizing side effects. Some unusual stack that I tolerate well that is not de rigueur is not something I would ever teach.
RustyhookerDude you come here to parrot off BS crap you pulled off bathroom wall?
You're writing styles Hella familiar. Give me bout hoyr to plug thru old forums. I'll figure you out.
You parrot BS here again, you're gonna find Troll tag junior
Get em rusty! I know you will uncover the truth. He does seem familiar, buildbigger86 maybe?
RustyhookerThat's what I'm thinking. Remember buildbiggers fiascos?
Haha..i remember bro..lol ..hes had some classics.
RustyhookerHe near got me banned for his head up his butt. Luckily i saved my pm's! Copy/Paster parrot.
You're getting over zealous with your posts. It's good to try and help but what's good for one may not be good for all. You can give your personal experience or whatever but ultimately it will be up to the OP to make the decision. The 2:1 ratio is given so the sides of Decca are not as pronounced. Sure people run them different but suggesting a 1:1 is a recipe for disaster. Also, try not to spoon feed so much. Let them do the research on their own then critique after then present what they know. They need to understand for themselves the reasoning, not just because they were told. Make sense?
AnonYes, make complete sense to me now. I fully understand what all of you have been saying to me now after you worded it in way i full comprehend.. Thanks to the guys who have been trying to help me break this bad habit i have done over a few times and being so cool and reaching out to me in a cool and calm way. I appreciate the support and patience from you guys. The people i am speaking of know who they are it means alot. But PCUSH yes i fully see the light now and understand the way i need to go about the answering/ giving advice to people on these forums... I need to step out of the box i am inclosed in and think about all the factors that could be involved and even though i or friends of mine have never had those factors be an issue, i can not go off those experiences and be giving advice out of just those experiences alone, and that i dont know these people the way i know my close friends so i must think of the worst case scenarios that could occur with me giving advice because i dont truly know anything about these people except that the little they tell me. I will waive much more on the cautious side now when give advice. thank you all for being so understanding
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkalso elaborate, like if you advise ai, elaborate starting times etc, its serious stuuf bro, days can mean disaster.
Safety first. My brother Flash is prob the most safety oriented guy here, but he is brutally honest, calls it like it is, like it or not. He's rough around the edges, but knows his shit. I've learned a lot from him. We like to do the good cop bad cop routine, lmao.
AnonPcush and Flash~ I understand flash have spoke a few over the past few days i think he is great and having but total respect for the man... I understand what is going here..... You two are doing we a good service and cleaning up the little bumps i am leaving in the road to make myself a more informed as well a better informer to others.. I think nothing but good thins of the two of you and respect and appreciate very much what you have and are doing for me fellas.
i respect you to mate, i believe in equality , we all the same bro, keep contributing mate, youve moved up fast already so your doing something good, your going to becom apart of "the forum whore crew" obviously, and yes for that too happen you need your cherry popped, im "rough around edges" so bring the lube, i go first, pin is like a dessert and likes" stirring custard" lol , you will be fine.
AnonLike wise, I am with you all the way.. BTW you are atleast nice to let me bring lube which your a good man, You like to apply pain and pressure but just enough to get the point feeling and point across not to rip my inside's out hahaha. I am a sick fuck. Stirring custard omg... You guys are to much!!
i learnt that on the weekend, went out with some old mates, they had some fun with a lets say..... slurry lol they went to the room for a bit, when they returnecd asked if i want a go at stirring custard, im like wtf does that mean??? lol yuk! they then said if your hungry were having a sanwich, im like nah, " cmon you can be the lettuce" im like you guys r fkd in the head lol, i then took my green shirt off lol, this actually is true btw .
Sloppy fifths. Just slides in easier is all.
Anonsounds Delightful!!!! Cheers to that boys
AnonOH GOD, I know it is true because i can tell we both have the same type of sick twisted friends as one another lol...
after further delibaration with my client, your application to the forum whore crew has been denied, justin beiber as your profile pic is against our ethical code, i sentence you too 5 years si fanboying, and award you no points, my god have mercy on your soul. lmfao!!
x2 haha
Anonoh fuck it changed... what the fuck.. I ban myself for 10 years for committing such a crime.. Fuck it guys ill ever go without the lube as punishment for my behavior
Watch your fkn ass boy............ i know who you are but i wont ban you right now!... Quit with the "im dumb" bullshit i cant have you playing with good members like this!...... i will let you be but this is your last chance... fuck up again and its a lifetime ban for you.. notice i said "i" because if the other MODS choose to take you out thats their choice............ heed my words , first fuck up and yous history..... are we clear???
haha whats that reggie?? lol beep beep richie.
lol, classic
Thank you +3
I know he addressed you, but I figured you've typed those type of responses thousands of times over, figured I'd save you the trouble.
again. smh
AnonI knew you were going to say something my friend. But if you see this time i went down on the dosage's that they had listed and explained why i think they should be lowerd, as well as i went into detail about dosage for on cycle support and pct dosage and explained my reason's why.. but please my friend by all means give it to me straight rip apart my response... were friends, just let me hear it
many problems mate, someone else will tell you, i cbf.
Ok I agree I need to research some more def don't need "decca dick" Back to reading some more!