Mast P, Test P, Anavar
How ya doing guys.
Going to start my 3rd cycle. First was 500mg of Test E for 12 weeks. With Nolva PCT (No AI, had no signs of gyno, rebound etc). Bloods done to confirm.
For my 3rd(Feedback of dosage, stack, pct is what I am after), I was thinking Mast P Test P Anavar
- Test P Wks 1-8 @ 100mg EoD (same syringe) Multi compound injection - higher dose? lower? ED?
- Mast P Wks 1-8 @ 150mg EoD (same syringe) Multi compound injection - higher? lower?
- Anavar Wks 5-10 @ 50-100mg ED. Should this be wks 4-8??? Lower dose? Will have thistle on hand!
PCT
- Nolva 40/40/20/20 ?? When to start if running var to week 10??
- Clomid - If neccesary- In my opinion, (I haven't needed it in the past; EVEYRONE IS DIFFERENT), but then again that is why I am here.
- HCG - Can't get.
AI
- Can't get.
Bodyfat
- Probably too high for Mast. @ around 13-15%
Keep in mind I have NOT started this yet, it's merely a few thought processes.
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If I had the time I would be doing Test E @ 5-600 for 12 weeks with a an oral finisher
Hey WalaMala. Thanks for reaching out for feedback.
I think trying to achieve all four goals you list, 2 of which are essentially one and the same, is wishful thinking. I noticed you did not indicate that putting on mass was a goal of this cycle. I'd suggest putting forth your primary goal for the next cycle. I believe this will make it easier to concentrate on a specific target goal and the means by which to achieve that goal. This will also make it easier for the community to evaluate your proposed cycle in light of what you're trying to accomplish.
BTW, I'm not altogether against your proposed cycle. But i don't think you will accomplish all 4 stated goals with this. And how well do you understand your body's response to your nutrition/ macros?
could I just keep it since with TP and var and forget about MP
You said you preferred your first cycle. You need to cycle and be in your comfort zone.
During your second cycle did you use TP as a taper and dbol as a kicker? Fill us in on dosages, frequencies, etc.
Why do you want to use TP and Var for third cycle? Is it because its a short cycle?
I believe from what you have said you can achieve your goals by getting back to the basics using test and proviron. What AAS do u have on hand?
I like the idea of 8-10 week cycles with short esters. No my second cycle was a fucking donkey one I used dbol and TP as kicker - what's with the hate of short esters?
Also I havent heard anything good about prov - no experience, but what I've heard of other people prov just is not worth it. (This is other ppl saying that not me.)
I'll never run another one without proviron
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
***You may have read this already. This is still a good read for an individual inquiring about third and beyond cycle advice.
Yup I agree with med and rusty 12 week test provi. It would actually yield better results thrn your proposed cycle 3 months gives you an extra month then you 8 week cycle and that's what you need. If you do this right you can come out of this cycle really lean. Definitetly use Clomid nolva sucks if I ever picked just one which I wouldn't it would be Clomid. nolva does almost nothing for stimulating LH which is the hormone responsible for tellig you balls to make test. And remember food is what's going to dictate your results not drugs.
RustyhookerI like the option by medx. Test/provi and good foods always a simple winner.
Thanks, brother. I think he can make a lot of progress with this cycle. He is 6 feet and 198 lbs...if i did the math right. He sounds endo/ecto. I need to find out his diet and lifting regimen.
RustyhookerSimple run with big foods and he'll be gtg!
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Yes it will be one of the best runs he has done. I hope he decides to do it. It seems like he is stuck on short ester test and var.
RustyhookerWell, when his pip and pin soreness get him.....it's learning. Short Esters are like jet fuel. If he isn't 100% focused it's a bomb.
It's all about learning
So, have you made a decision with the suggestions regarding this thread?
100mg TP EOD 8 weeks
100ng mp EOD 8 weeks
100mg var ed 8 weeks
Anastrozole obtained.
Probably should of said I'm on a tight schedule and I cannot run long esters that stay in body for too long..
What was your second cycle? How much time between each cycle have you had?
What are your goals?
Time on time off. No rush. 2nd cycle was test E + prop /dbol. Preferred my first tbh
Strength
Lower BF
Power
Speed
In no particular order and assume wishful thinking.
(I train Crossfit) - here we go.
RustyhookerTraining crossfit....hmm. Not typically condusive for steroids.
Steroids not useful for crossfit.. What.....
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/blood-work-bible-...
***This should help you stay on course regarding pre, mid, and post cycle blood work.
I am glad u said u preferred your first. I wanted to say that BF is a little high for Anavar plus the MP and TP. Other bros might disagree thats fine.
I would use TC/TE combo at 500mg per week for 12 weeks again, along with Proviron at 25mg per day. You can reduce the BF by utilizing a diet with macros tailored to meet your goals and hit a mile to two miles three times per week of cardio.
Also natural growth hormone peaks 4+ times per day. In the morning after rising and at night after going to bed. Then, after workout and sprints, then after you eat. The more u eat the more it spikes. And your macros can be tailored to meet your goals like mentiined above. Knowing this info and following up on the times of day would be beneficial for you. That way, you are using less AAS and maximizing two AAS on third cycle.
PCT needs to be reworked. Research Nolva/Clomid/Exemestane. And u really only need hCG if you use a 19-nor compound, so hCG is optional.
ALT 37 IU/L
Albumin - 4.2 g/dL
A/G ratio 1.1 favouring A
Alkaline phosphatase 68 IU/L
AST 20 IU/L
Bilirubin 0.9 mg/dL
Blood urea nitrogen) 15 mg/dL
BUN/creatinine ratio 14:1
Calcium 9.5 mg/dL
Chloride 100 mEg/L
Creatinine 0.9 mg/dL
Fasting glucose (blood sugar) 87mg/dL
Phosphorus 3.2 mg/dL
Potassium 4.1 mEg/L
Sodium 140 mEg/L
Lipid Panel (or Lipid Profile)
Total cholesterol - 4.9 mmol/L
Triglycerides - 80 mg/dL
HDL cholesterol 65 mg/dL
LDL cholesterol - 89 mg/dL
Total cholesterol/HDL ratio 3.07:1
American Heart Association guidelines:
Complete Blood Count (CBC)
WBC leukocyte count 6100 cmm
WBC differential count
Normal range:
Neutrophils 50%
Lymphocytes 29%
Monocytes 4.4%
Eosinophils 2.9%
Basophils 0.7%
RBC erythrocyte count 4.9 million cmm
Hematocrit 48%
Hemoglobin 15 g/dL
Mean corpuscular volume 89 femtoliters
Mean corpuscular hemoglobin 29 picograms
Mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC) 31%
Red cell distribution width 13%
Platelet count 241,000 mL
Mean Platelet Volume 8.9 femtoliters
Bloods.
When was this blood work pulled?
6 months after first
Week 1-8 With the same Syringe huh? No pain no gain lol
Haha, not what I meant - each compound (EOD) will be done with same syringe. so mast and prop in one syringe. eod.
I believe people will ask these questions.
What do you mean you can't get an AI? Along with why can't you get HCG?
Standard PCT around here is nolva and clomid, but I don't think you'll see anyone ranting and raving with no clomid - I personally don't like it.
I think you'd rather do 4-8 on the var so PCT can start the week following.
I see you've gotten bloods before. Post your baseline so everyone knows that your body is "normal" again. Bloods tell everything about, before, during, and after a cycle.