Looking to start 2nd cycle. Any suggestions?
Hi, Im new to the site and I want to get some suggestions to what I should do next. I experimented with Test C last year, and let me tell you it was a nightmare for me. I was really ignorant about the whole concept, and I did some stupid sh1t. Let me explain my situation:
I took 250 mg of test c for 12 weeks. @ week 5 I started to get some prolactin issues ans itchy nipples, so I freaked out, researched some more and got the strongest drug avaialable, Letro. It did the job since the sides stopped but it did not stop the prolactin issues, so I got some caber. My libido was WAY down, so I had to cut back and taper down letro. Week 14 came along, waited 2 weeks ans started PCT. JUST!!! CLOMID!!!lol for 4 weeks, I thought there was no need for nolva on such soft cycle, but guess what, there was a need. After I was done with my clomid pct, about 3-4 weeks later I noticed some fat gain in my chest, went to the doc and the first thing he asked was if I had taken steroids, I, of course denied it. Its been a year and a half and for the last 8 months my hair has been thinning quite a bit, I can tell the thickness went down and now I can see my scalp more under a light.
I am a healthy guy. 26 years old, 172 pounds 12-13 bf? I am active, play soccer every-week and work out about 3-4 days a week. Clean diet since my wife is diabetic I help her out by eating healthy too. In relation to my sides explained above, what compounds and what dosages do you recommend? for how long? I am battling my hair problems with some Rogaine and regenpure, it has helped the hair loss but not the regrowth yet.
Thanks guys.
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I was thinking on getting some Test E from one of the sources here ans run it @500mg for 12-14 weeks with prop as a kick starter for the first 4 weeks @ 100 mg eod. I will take arimidex at 0.5 eod from day 1 until pct. Clomid and nolva for 4-6 weeks, depending on how i feel.
Clomid 100/75/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10.
Hairloss: Prospar @ 5m daily
Prolactin: Pramipexole lowest dose pill they make (makes u horny too)
can i get any of these compounds from one of the sources here? Hopefully someone in the top 10? Thanks
Pramipexole yes...
Proscar just go to the doc. Easier to get than nude pics of viking
Your obviously new to this game brother, but Il lay down some info that will help.
1- your a nube, no frontloading/kickers/prymids, no orals or multiple compounds, learn to walk first, theres plenty of time.
2- next cycle, learn your body, write down everything you inject, eat, sides, lifts, bodyweight, water intake........
3- Back to basics, big heavy compound movements, train 1 day on 1-2 days off.
4- Learn macro-nutrients (protein, carbs, fats). And how much you need.
The Cycle:
1- 500mg test (inject 250mg on monday, then 250mg on thursday)
2- drop the adex dose to 0.25mg EOD, start using during cycle only "if" you need it, then run it through out cycle to 1 week past last injection of test.. DONT USE DURING PCT
3- Follow the standard clomid/nolva PCT 2 weeks after last injection of test.
Finally:
Get blood work done and find the fuck out whats going on inside ya!!!
Then get another one 4 weeks after your done!!!!!
karma points anyone????
Also, should I get blood work done before and after? Which one do I need to order? Just the regular estro/free test serum? I am kind of on a budget. Thanks
I am new to the game, but since this happened to me all I have been doing for the last year is find out why and what to do next to control this issues next time. I will post some pics so you guys can see my mild gyno...nothing huge, just some fat around the nipple area that you can see from my side, not so much from the front.
I will not kick start just as you recommended. I will run test e @500 mg for 14 weeks with arimidex on hand and pct on hand just in case I have to bail.
My nutrition looks like this:
8 am: 1 cup oatmeal, 6 egg whites/2 yolks. 1 banana 1 tbls peanut butter.
10-11am: 1 cup cottage cheese with fruit.
1pm: Chicken 6-8oz with veggies, quinoa.
3-4pm protein shake.
7pm tuna, salmon burger or chicken with veggies and sweet potato.
9pm shake before going to sleep.
Sometimes I get up during the night and chow down some chicken to get extra protein in. Thanks guys. Comments, critics welcome.
Blood test:
-FSH
-LH
-Androgens
-RBC
-Insulin
-IGF (this is now the common test for HGH ect)
-Full liver panel (the endo will know what to ask for)
-Lipids (LDL/HDH)
You need a referral from your GP to an Endocrinologist, Gp`s can order this blood work no probs, but they dont specialize in this area and wont know all the little warning signs.
Second, talk to the endo about using high dose letro to reverse your gyno, I dont wana give doses coz Ive only read about it, never done it.
Third, you need more calories to grow. Refer to the man with the exquisitely tanned buttocks known as VIKING... He da man for diet!!
I will try to get a referral or just order some tests online maybe. I will talk to an endo, even though the last guy I talked to said that it was barely noticeable and I should not worry about it...of course, they are not his tits!
I want to keep my diet clean and I dont want to get fat, Ill check out sweet buttocks posts. =)
Lean bulk is a crock of shit bro... if you wana look sexy year round go for it. but if you.wana join the.125kg+ club youl have to sacrafice ya 6 pack for a while and concentrate on 1000cals 8 times a day. thats v secret to size ;)
You said it brother! I dont want to weight 125kg, maybe 90-100kg, not more. I dont want to be a beast, I dont like the way it looks plus its obvious you are juicing.
Il dig up exactly what to get done on your bloodwork.
I get it done every 4 weeks regardless coz i use too much crap.
Il msg in a few hours. its 5am here hahA
Definately brother! +3 from me i just knew you were the real deal weeks back, now you have your shit together good style keep it coming bro i like it
I want to cycle...even though I had these problems, It made me feel Great!!! while I was on it...it was later when sh1t hit the fan. I was bloated as fuck!!! and I had estrogen issues as you can see, but I feel this all happened becuase I was a dumbass. So you guys think I should go with the same test? No short ester? I think I will be ok with arimidex on hand and a good proper pct.What about HCG on cycle? Wouldnt that help estro realted sides? Thanks
Wow I think this should be something every new guy reads. This sounds like a country song about steroids.I wouldn't run a cycle if you had that bad of sides on only 250mg a week unless you could get tested very often.I think I would listen to SGT. and wait until your on trt. Who needs hair? Shave your head grow a goatee and rock the bald look. Prolactin issues on test makes me think you might of had a little Deca thrown in there too.
No...no deca bro. I dont look good bald man, I have a fucked up nose jaja. I say prolactin becuase some clear stuff came out when I pinched real hard.
Maybe try the same cycle ..buuut this time try it ''the right way''. test e ''250/wk is low bro. try 4-500 with aromisn or armidex for uer sensitive boobs and clo N nolva pct.
ImTestyI mean if your willing to cycle again after all that...keep it simple
12 weeks
Test E 500mg week split into two shots Monday/Thursday
Pct two weeks after last shot consisting of Nolva AND Clomid
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Have arimidex and aromasin on hand to control gyno since your prone would prob take .25/.5 adex eod.
With a good clean diet and lifestyle this is a good safe easy cycle and should help you obtain the goals you are looking for. But really think twice considering last experience!
AnonWow thats wild . Damn man sorry,to hear that happened. Whats prolactin? Thats new to me im guessing its bad thats obvious
i think his nip nips lactaided ..
AnonWtf that can happen? Oh man dude im feeling your pain cuz thats horrible. Man bro wow. I hope that never happens to me! is this common?
biggerthanyouU need to research if u dont know what prolactin is
AnonTruly im not worried what it is but I kniw If I lactate ill do just that after I buy and take cabor!
sgtstedankoWtf!? Look Into primo, brother (your hair is f-d wither way)... If I were you, I would not cycle again, until trt!
Primo is one of the causes of Alopecia...not good for hair loss or DHT brother.
sgtstedankoWell, brother. It's the only compound you can safely run. Being as extremely sensitive to testosterone. What are you more concerned with; A little hair loss (Which It's gonna happen to YOU regardless, it sounds like), Or your tig ole bitch bitties!? Don't cycle again. Please, dude. God obviously doesn't want you to, brother...