posted Wed, 09/07/2016 - 20:47
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-2 Looking to get pack on muscle and cut belly weight.3rd cycle
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I'm had great gains on my other to cycles. Went from 170 to 230 over two cycles. I have 15 pounds I'd like to lose but gain hard big muscle. Arms and abs. But I have a fat shield over my abs. I got a good diet going tuna , salmon , chicken breast , brown rice , penuts, almonds , penut butter wheat bread ,some steaks, fresh veggies.
I wanna do a winter cycle I'm thinking
500mg a week of test e ,
250mg of tren e a week
Dbol blue hearts for the first 4 weeks
Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 20/20/40/60/80 then reverse for 10 week total
And 30mcg of t3 a day for 6 weeks.
I have nova and Clomid and metro on had also liv 52.
What's your guys thoughts? It will be. 10 to 12 week cycle
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Being as heavy and high as BF you are. You need to get bloods before cycle which you should anyways to make sure your hormones aren't screwed up.
AnonAnother fucking post about gaining and losing in the same cycle
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Simple .... Let's look at this from the most simple train of thought..... To gain muscle you have to do what? EAT and Train.... To lose fat you have to do what? Reduce dietary intake (calories and monitor fat intake) and train and cardio or atleast that's what I do..... You can't do both in one Cycle
Your either bulking (or lean bulking?) or your cutting!
But with your bf% I'd say you need to work on your diet
Just my opinion
Dirty does it again! +1
AnonThanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkDiet my friend.
Have you done bloods to see how your body has reacted to your previous cycles?
Drop the tren and the clen. Why use harsh drugs when increasing your vegetable and fibre intake with added cardio could do exactly the same thing? Also increase your water in take.
Have you worked out your TDEE and what amount of calories you need to lose weight? If you have you'll see there's a massive difference between that number and the calories needed to bulk up.
I'm going based on your profile pic. You need to get your BF down.
There's a diet clinic form post which would be useful for you to browse but yeah Rusty and Catalyst are good members to reach out to.
@Rustyhooker thank you. I will check them out.
I'm not. I'm gonna look into low carb high protein diet.
RustyhookerCatalyst below is a good guru. Click his avatar...read his forums. Makwa and MedDx too.
RustyhookerI hope you're reading the folks below. I wouldn't do what you proposed.
Dude get your BF down to about 12% before cycling! Get your diet right cut your carbs really low and high protein diet!
AnonYes... Doesn't necessarily have to be 12.... But I'd atleast say it would help to be a good bit below 20 and continue to work on it.... I gave cycle with a bf% well above 12% and did ok... However I will say I could have done better with a lower bf... Which is obvious..... These days I probably stay around 13~14.... And I'm comfortable with that... I'm not competing and no plans of doing so..... But everyone is different with different plans and different experiences
But in this case here I'd just say the guy needs to diet lift and do plenty cardio.... No compounds needed at this time
Yes I agree with you. I compete and being above 10% and even at 10% I feel like a fatass. Lol.. Being that heavy and high in BF it could be something other than dieting shitty or being pure lazy. It could be a thyroid issue or something else which why he should get his bloods done first. To cancel any health issue out the way.
Spell check auto corrected it to bmi . 28% my body fat percentage. I don't do a Lot of cardio. Trying to find info on getting the weight down. I thought my diet was good but from what you guys say its not up to part. Can someone guide me thru.
Sorry. My bmi is 28%
Height is 6ft 2in
Weight 246
Neck 19"
Wrist 8"
Forearm 13"
Waist 44
Hips 46
Looking to cut not build but wanna keep the muscle I have. Any good diet or cycles that work best
If you go by bmi, we're all fat to obese. That number only works for normal people. The masses of mouth breathers that coast through life with ameba bodies. It's typically not for people who train. Definitely by for those who want to carry a lot of muscle. Body fat percentage is what counts.
And I'm sorry to tell you but Clen/t3 aren't going to be of any benefit to you if you're walking around with a 44inch waist line. You need to figure out what you fucked up to get that ridiculous waste size and fix it. As long as you're eating the way you are for a 44" waist, the drugs would be better used as arts and crafts material. Maybe you can use them instead of pasta to make one of those smiley face paper plates?
BMI is not what your being asked, it's body fat percentage. If that's what you've given and just mis communicated it, (I suspect with a 44" waist that us the case), a BF% of 28% is a clear indication that your diet and cardio work are both poor. Drugs shouldn't even be on your radar.
Third cycle and you're swinging for the fences with every dangerous compound you can lay your hands on. Good luck with that.
Take out the peanuts, wheat bread...replace those with greens...add cardio...no snacking in between meals...
Oh yeah...the dbol...thought you were cutting down.
Kind of unclear on what you are trying to do here. You want to gain big hard muscles but lose 15lbs? That is quite a mish-mash of compounds that don't really seem to compliment one another.
Bro, as Dacky said below, it's not possible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Why? See the following link:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels
So, first, provide an estimate of your BF in your stats and then decide if you want to keep adding on more muscle mass, or just lean out and cut fat at this point. I can't read your mind, but cutting fat seems more in line with what you have written, but please advise us as to your choice before we can help you further.
Jesus by the time your done with this shit excuse for a cycle you won't have a liver or thyroid function to speak of!!! Like Shiva said do you hate your body!!
Over the top and misguided goals.
dbol, clen, tren AND t3....? do you hate your body or something?
Stats
Age: 32
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 246
BF:????
Update your stats as they do not agree to what you say in your post and what is your BF?
You realise it is not possible to add muscle and cut fat at the same time. Sounds like you need to cut which is all about there diet, cardio and weight training plus patience. AAS are not necessary for a cut unless you're a competitive body builder and/or looking to drop to single digit BF levels. My suggestion is forget the cycle (especially the one you've laid out because it's not well thought through) or taking other drugs and get on the diet forum to get your diet sorted and spend the next 20 weeks or so getting your BF down to where you want to be.
Lol 3rd cycle and wants to add tren
also wants to add clen