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So here’s the debate. My current cut is coming to an end and I’ll be starting a 10-20 week health phase. I’m currently in the process of formulating my off season/bulk cycle. I’m having a hard time debating what I wanna run. I know for certain test and HGH will be the base of my cycle. 1 gram of test (I’ll start at 500 and nitrate up). And 12ius of HGH. That’ll be the base. Now where the debate comes in is if I want my secondary compound to be NPP/Deca or primobolan. My common understanding is primo is more a contest prep option of gear choice but I’ve been reading a lot and watching a lot of very knowledgable people on YouTube talking about PRIMO being one of the best off season compounds. I have the resources and the connection to get primo at a decent price and a lot of it. So I’m thinking either primo at 700mg per week. OR NPP at 700mg per week and add in EQ at 500mg per week to ideally help manage e2 without needing an AI. I DONT PLAN TO RUN EQ AT ALL IF I GO THE PRIMO ROUTE. I’ve never ran a true nandrolone bulk cycle. It always really been mainly test,tren,anadrol etc etc. So a good nandrolone run sounds super appealing but the potential negative side effects don’t sound appealing lol. Does anyone have any experience running primo in an off season? I was even considering doing Test at 1gram, 700 primo, and either sprinkling in 350mg NPP or 350mg DHB at some point along the way. I’ll be keeping orals out all together until maybe the last 6 weeks, then hitting some inj anadrol to top it off. Anyways, what do you guys think? Thanks.
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Jrihard89Personally. NPP and EQ. If you’re basing on a gram of test. I’d go based on how you look obviously know how to train and eat: 1g test, 600 EQ, NPP 300-400. NPP will work even at 300.
1-12 NPP 300mg
1-18 test 1g
1-18 EQ 600mg
Reap all the benefits of NPP first 12 week and blow up and once EQ comes kicking you drop the NPP which drops the little extra water. And run EQ and test out where at that phase you can focus getting your body adapted to the new weight to last.
I hope this makes sense I’m too stoned to be typing this shit out
Jrihard89Now that I’m fully awake, this is how I’d go on this phase.
1-12 NPP100 1ml EOD 350mg
1-12 TestE250 1.2ml EOD 1,050mg
1-12 EQ300 .6ml EOD 630mg
1-12 injectable anadrol 2weeks on 2weeks off
13-18 TestE 1.4ml MWF 1,050mg
13-18 EQ .7ml MWF 630mg
Then add in
• HGH
• IGFLR3 pre workout, 50mcg have carbs intra.
I’d focus on straight 500 cal surplus while the 12 weeks on NPP and drol. Just gain weight!!!
Then at week 13-18 I’d move to a carb cycle where I’m lowering my intake to 200 cal surplus on off days, 300 on small body parts, 400 on big body parts, and one day a week 500 cal surplus factoring in a cheat meal on that day like legs.
Damn dude I like that shit. Thank you bro
Jrihard89Of course Man! Just donate blood week about 4-5 IMO, then again around week 13-14 if blood work shows for it! Then few weeks after the end of the cycle maybe again if you need to!
Definitely run drol 2 weeks on 2 off. You want the benefits but by week 2.5 everyone gets the lowered appetite and such. Can’t have that on growth phases! So bring it in and kick it out and cycle it. Thats my fav, and hit up a certain NAPkins supplier for Liv52 for a whole cycle liver support as you’re cycling drol a few times over in those 12 weeks!
You’ll turn into a freak and done right you should only be up 15 or so pounds by the way I mentioned cal surplus so keeping lean but still a very very noticeable growth!
DocMcGainsSeconded. Running a beginners version of this cycle (525 test, 420 EQ, 250 NPP). Nice combo, good synergy among the compounds. You don’t sound like a beginner so you probably already know how you respond to 19-nors and to EQ. I haven’t had any of the prolactin sides (low dose, so that’s unsurprising), no anhedonia, no deca dick, no EQ anxiety. But those would be things to watch out for.
That sounds wicked lol... good info!
I'd be more worried about running EQ than npp. Just me tho. And it's just because I'm 40. If I were younger I'd be all about it.
What is your health phase @1waytickettogains? Off altogether or cruising on test? That's a very long time off blast. Gotta give kudos for that. Smart man.
I plan to only run 200mg test cyp and I’ll lower my gh down to about 6iu is the plan.
Well from what I understand primo like EQ is a marathon run 20weeks or don’t bother and you got the dose right on I seems like the primo doesn’t really start to shine until week 12 -14 700 or higher at 20 weeks is where she gets speedy and 200mg primo is a must just scary with all the craziness going on with the global raw issues…I don’t give a fuck if said source has tested it I’d buy few send em off for testing then buy bulk once you know for sure …fuck even mast has been sketchy and now we find out even test cyp and enth is getting faked and that’s one that was never faked in the past it was always primo/var or anything else spendy
With 700 primo your e2 could get low even on a gram of test, I’ve seen it before. Really depends on what you’re trying to do. If you want the joint lubrication for heavy off season lifts, npp/deca. If you want a subtle but still effective and VERY side effect friendly steroid that controls e2, go with primo