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So right now I'm cutting off some extra body fat. I completed my first test cycle and PCT about a week ago and now am using EC. My last cycle did throw some serious muscle on me, but it was wet and sloppy. I ate a lot (not as clean as I should have, but still relatively well) and it showed at the end of the cycle. So I was looking for a great (beginner) stack to use for a lean bulk aka no teen please. I realize most of the lean in lean bulk comes from diet, and I will keep that on point throughout this cycle as I have learned my lesson now. I really appreciate any help you guys give me, Thanks.
BTW
Cycle in mind: Either
1-12 600mg Test e
1-12 600mg EQ

or

1-12 700mg Test P
8-12 80mg Anavar

Thanks again brothers

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I see in your profile you are 25yrs old at 200lb marching upto 15% BF :( damn good info below from all the guys re/min 16wks cycle due to running EQ i hope you re/evaluate your cycle length to get the best from it,Big T as laid down the lifestyle science that you MUST get to grips with or else cycling will be all in vein..also you must address that BF issue quick sharp before you enter a world of pain with water and gyno issues.. Diet will make or break you brother there is NO compromise here.

greeeen13's picture

Unfortunately I'm not really sure what my body fat is, I'm just taking a guess. I'm already working on lowering it down now. Hopefully with two months of strict diet, lifting, and cardio I'll be able to reach a more desirable body fat before the proposed start of this cycle. I've started your high protein/low carb diet with the 2pm carb cutoff- good stuff brother, thank you. I'm going to keep this a lifestyle change as opposed to on a goal-by-goal basis. As for the cycle, 16 weeks of 600mg Test E and EQ is a solid choice? Thanks again, the information you and Tread crank out is invaluable and much appreciated.

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

Long esters are the way to go right now. Ed or eod injections suck unless your used to pinning.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

X2 bro.. keeping everything sweet and simple is best way when new! far less to go wrong until more exp with compounds.

greeeen13's picture

gotcha. Thanks bud

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

See below:)

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greeeen13's picture

First off, thanks for taking the time to respond to my pm and this post. Fortunately I did learn my lesson. Towards the end of that cycle I noticed it wasn't just the shoulders and arms of my shirts getting tight, but my pant waist too. I had a well laid out diet plan consistent with what I typically see here, but I allowed myself to replace these clean calories out with cheat meals daily because it was a "bulk". I've cleaned the cheat out of my diet (except maybe a once a week reasonable cheat) and am getting the vast majority of my calories from eggs, egg whites, 96% lean beef, chicken breast, lean steak, peanut butter, whole pasta or tortillas, and oats. It totals up to probably 50% Protein 25% fats 25% carbs.

Now, the reason why I typed all of that shit out is NOT to try to tell you that you're wrong. In fact, you're spot on with how I had gone about the cycle. I'm wondering if I'm headed in the right direction.

Right now, that direction is using a high protein/low carb diet combined with ECA and cardio to shed some unwanted pounds before I take up another cycle in late August (cycle + PCT and a few weeks). What do you think?

Again thank you, This sort of information is hard to come by and VERY much appreciated

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

Mmmmmmm food & tight ass......get in my face! (no homo)

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EMAC's picture

I think the eq stack you would want to run longer like 14-16 weeks. just my 2 cents

greeeen13's picture

Yeah? Would you run the test up to that length as well?

EMAC's picture

Yea actually I would run them both for 16 weeks. With hcg though