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I've been reading about a lot of people crying about bunk and underdosed gear . First off people need to realize that test is the most important part of any cycle . If you are just doing steroids and your test levels are low than you cannot expect optimum results . Also if you are boosting you test you absolutely need to make sure you are taking an estrogen blocker as high test will covert onto estrogen and that defeats the manly look we are looking for . I recommend anyone running cycles to get regular blood work done as to stay on topof the changes its causing and to be proactive in correcting any imbalances it may cause in your levels . Lastly if you run a cycle I highly reccomend milk thistle to help with keeping your liver healthy as this is incredibly hard on them and dialysis is not something that will help with a workout regimine and we are trying to better ourselves not slowly destroy our body
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Most people IMO cry about bunk gear because they dont got shit dialed in and THINK roids are gonna do the trick. Ive done several bunk cycles but it wasnt the roids that was bunk it was my learning curve! The lifestyle is about switching shit up, learning new techniques, diets, compounds, doses, sleeping, training times/lengths, when to eat what and how much, every damn thing matters, EVERYTHING! DISCIPLINE! its a LIFESTYLE and if you dont got what it takes to live it then dont do juice! period! IF YOU CANT MAKE PROGRESS WITHOUT JUICE THEN YOU AINT DIALED IN YET! Maybe you cant gain 15 pounds in 3 months, but if you cant gain 2 or 3 naturally your not gonna gain the 15 on roids! Same thing with cutting, if you cant do it on your own then what makes you thing that roids are gonna do it? if you dont got the discipline to put down the snickers and chocolate ice cream your in the wrong forum. Know your compounds BEFORE you run them, dont think that winny and mast are gonna cut up your 18% BF! Do you even know HOW to use all the equipment at your gym? I see dudes at my gym all the time that dont know how to train, matter fact im not sure if ive seen many that do! there is not a large percent of people that are ready for this lifestyle but there is a large percentage that try and live it and in that is the problem. As hillwood said yesterday its not a one size fits all, theres to many variables! RESEARCH! RESEARCH! DIET! DIET! DIET! DISCIPLINE!
Bang on! Diet>training>rest>roids. In that order. You must have the one in front in place to grow eg, if you diets shit your training will be shit.
Liv52 is better then milk thistle and usually cheaper.
zewiSorry your Wrong Brother.. AAS is TOXIC to the Liver and cause cell harm---You need to understand how both work.. Cause Uncle Zewi Cares.
Liv 52 is helpful for treatment of cirrhosis, hepatitis, alcoholic liver disease, and malnutrition.
Milk thistle is generally used for the detoxifying and strengthening of the liver. The milk thistle’s black seed are cropped for medicinal utility. The active component in this seed is known as silymarin. Antioxidants eliminate toxic chemicals that cause cell harm.
+1 brother. IMO don't use a drug to help correct the sides from another drug. It's just a viscous cycle that never ends.
cdaddy7This dude is something else Z!!! Fuck me!!!
hey i remember reading some where that milk thistle has some effect on estrogen conversion. Basically went on to say that Liv 52 is better then milk thistle but it prob wouldn't hurt to use lil bit of both?
zewiYou want both..
But yes Milk Thistle does enhanced effects of estrogen in the body---Milk Thistle is not one that you run year round.. It should only be used when on AAS and doing an Oral start a week before--and keep on 2 weeks past your Oral. than drop it..
Liv 52 is the one you take year round.
how much liv52 should i take year round and what dosage of milk thistle should i take when i start my cycle? And i take both when on a cycle?
Boom! You're really starting to grow on me Z... Nice work!
zewiThanx Brother.
cdaddy7BAM!!!! It is apparent that somebody has been researching!!!! +1 brother for posting community awareness!!!
There are a lot of ppl that doubt Milk Thistle. I am a believer of milk thistle. When Milk Thistle is taken with other herbs such as dandelion, artichoke, and licorice, liver protection and bile excretion (important for lowering cholesterol levels) are enhanced. And when combined with the natural compound phosphatidylcholine, Milk Thistle is better absorbed and remains active in the bloodstream for greater lengths of time.
cdaddy7Yes Tvo, I have used milk thistle on a cycle and i have left it out and after bloodwork def could see a difference in the liver panel numbers....I actually use liv52 and milk thistle together with orals....It's not worth the risk to chance.....u only have one liver so take care of it
Here is a post I wrote about the use of milk thistle and it's effects on androgen receptors. That's cool u got bloods and it actually showed what mt is really doing. I prefer tudca/udca made huge difference for me.http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/supplements/milk-thi...
cdaddy7Very interesting and I encourage everyone to go read it...Thanks Cheat!!!
No prob Cdaddy!