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Is my steroid provider giving me REALLY BAD advice?

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Hello:

I'm wondering if my steroid provider, which is an online company and appears to be VERY legitimate, is giving me VERY bad advice--they told me that, as a first-time AAS user, I need to be using 50mg of Dianabol per day and only use HCG during my PCT. This advice was in response to my emailing them and writing that after 9 days of 30mg of Dianabol, I feel ABSOLUTELY nothing. Admittedly, I am a first time AAS user, but I did a lot of research prior to buying and learned I should probably start with 20 mg per day (I upped it to 30 after 5 days of feeling nothing) AND that HCG should be used on cycle WITH TRT.

Are they giving me bad advice with the 50mg per day and HCG for PCT only? And if so, why? Thank you.

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Jayzgainz's picture

Well this whole fucking fiasco here taught me 2 things. To stick to my 1st thoughts on someone, and NEVER get into a conversation with a smarmy democrat. A lesson for real life

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CBBurrr's picture

Wow, this is about the biggest shit show ive ever heard of...
Well right behind the guy who was peeping on girls from inside the tank of a porta potty at a woman's yoga convention in Boulder Colorado

DfromPhilly's picture

I mean as far as the portapotty guy goes that was pretty innovative, though. Credit where credit's due lol

EDIT: dude I just googled that shit. I can't believe that's real. Wow man. Just wow. That's gross on so many levels.

giardap's picture

This is so timely, I had exactly this issue last week.
I was hanging with my very VERY legitimate drug dealer. I quizzed him on the best way to mainline my heroin what dose and how much to buy from him, you know how you do
Anywaysssss. .. he played coy at first (no homo), you know, asked how much money I had on me and shit... but gave me some VERY VERY VERY LEGITAMITE advice.... he said; give me all of your money you stupid dumb fool, so I did, obviously.
He gave me some grey powder he scraped off a wall and I injected the lot. Did NOTHING for me.
I'm going to go to a specialist forum and ask them exactly what I am doing wrong.... shed some goddamn light on this weirdness

press1's picture

Hahaha Funny as fu**

Manshit's picture

Damn you're very well read for a heroine addict!

helloBrooklyn's picture

I'm a heroine addict. From Halle Berry's Catwoman to Anne Hathaway's Catwoman to that new Wonder Woman chick, I can't get enough of those hotties in skintight outfits. I'm jonesing for one, man!

DfromPhilly's picture

And you said you were no fun at parties... Look at you with a wakka wakka. Lol

Scarlet johansons been killin it heroine style too in those marvel movies

giardap's picture

LOL

Manshit's picture

I'm aching to see my heroine is a line in one of my favorite songs.That was a good play Mr Brooklyn!

Greg's picture

this

smarmydemocrat 3 hours ago @Jayzgainz
I am taking Test (500 every 4 days)

or this

smarmydemocrat 3 hours ago @Jayzgainz
I am taking Test (250 mg per day)

Which is it? two grams a week or one???

You did all this research, where did you find that you should take so much plus dbol on your first cycle?
I can't find ONE example anywhere.

RickRock1086's picture

I'm gonna go over the messages & if I don't agree with you, I'm gonna fucken neg your ass! Really??? Don't see the logic on the way some of you dudes go about this treats, perhaps some of you spend more time here than at the gym & kitchen?!?!?! but who am I to judge. Hopefully the OP finds the light he is seeking for

TheFlash85's picture

Yes your twiglett is very mouthy.
Yous both need give each other some real advice and that is getting to fuck.

Where are the intresting posts with substance.

JL's picture

So shouldn't we at least point him in the right direction?

JL's picture

I'm not getting into a pissing contest here! My comment has been taking out of context. The OP has already jacked himself up. I was simple trying to lay down enough crumbs to get back the op on the right path before he further damages his body. It was a very generic response intending to give a direction in research. Oh well fk it neg away rusty!

Manshit's picture

I didn't ask for priors bit didn't realize that telling someone to use the search feature would get me negged.I guess that should be the first question asked no matter what advise given weather cycle advise or not.

Manshit's picture

I'm with you but thought I was kind of teaching him to do some research.I actually agree you and think it need to be a real forum rather than one that pushes crazy!

JL's picture

First cycle should look like this:

Pre cycle blood work for reference.

500 test E for 8 weeks

Estrogen control on hand: arimidex or aromasin. Start 1 to 2 weeks if needed after first test shot. Use up until starting pct.

Week 5-6 blood work. Adjust AI as needed

Pct: Nolva and clomid for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after last test shot.

Post cycle Blood work 3 months post cycle.

This is it! If you didn't have this all planned out you were not ready to cycle.

IrishMack's picture

Come on man, he has no stats, no goals listed. No plan. Why is everyone so fkn eager to please? What the fuck?

JL's picture

No offense Irish. I gave him an outline so hopefully he can straighten out his own shitty mess. I typically do not respond to these types of posts. The cycle I laid out is all over the internet. I gave no detail on how or why this should be done. I will leave that to the Op to hopefully take responsibility for his own actions and do some much needed research.

Greg's picture

You are wrong.

No offense JL. You may have just showed a 16 year old how to start down the road to get into a big shitty mess.

If a kid is outside the quickie mart or headshop do you advise him on how to get and do? Hopefully the answer is no.

Just because it's "laid out all over the internet" is NOT the right rational.

The RIGHT rational is:

Post your stats.
what are the goals
do more research
Stop

JL's picture

Stats hardly mean shit here. Last I checked eroids isn't checking id's at the door. I'm wrong based on your assumptions. Thank you for telling me what the right rational is all knowing GREG..

Greg's picture

It's our job to check ID's not verify them.

It's our job to give good info. You can't know that without asking the right questions. Your attitude is a one shoe fits all approach and that is the wrong one to have.

Do you know what I'm going to do next?
I wonder what you'll be doing for the next 24 hours.

IrishMack's picture

I know its a cookie cutter you could find just about anywhere but why couldnt the OP find it? Picking up what im putting down? Its obvious somethings not right, OP is all over the place and hasnt done even the most basic of research. We should be telling hom to research better then just handing him the answers. You feed a feral cat it will never look for food on its own.

Bill G's picture

Post a pic of you no incriminating view. Block your face. What are your goals.? Complete your stats. These guys will be more inclined to help you if you give more info. They probably recommend a diet change over drug use. What's your diet now and work out split?

Manshit's picture

My guess is that at 50mg a day and you feel nothing you have some bunk Dbol.I guess that it could just be very low dosed so that would explain them telling you to take so much.There is a search feature on this site and if you use it you will find a couple of recent post about HCG that are very informing.

Gettingbig's picture

What do you expect to feel?
Dbol is a strong compound and when I used to use it i would feel amazing during my workout.

Are you keeping your blood levels stable splitting your doses through the day or just taking ad a pre-workout

I don't reccomend cycle advice from a src some are extremely knowledgeable but in the end most just want you to buy and use more products.
I would definitely get cycle advice here

Layout your cycle plan diet stats and you will get good advice.
The more information you give the better the advice will be

stairmaster's picture

You're using 875mg test / week for first cycle, more than too much!
U should use 50mg dbol/day, just cause u notice nothing after 9days with 30mg? Maybe your dbols are bunk!
HCG as PCT only...smh!

First, a source/online provider should never give u advice.

You are here on eroids- ask here and learn from the guys with real knowledge before u start running a cycle!

IrishMack's picture

1st cycle and you cosign, not having any idea his stats, his goals, his training. Maybe you can also hook him up with a diet and a exercise regimen too?
Maybe he should add tren too?

stairmaster's picture

his stats are in the profile...
he asked especially for the dbol dosage and so on..but anyway.

SimonM84's picture

Anyone ever see cycle recommendations on some of these sources sites. Eq without test, dbol no pct. my God...

Gettingbig's picture

The worst i have seen is a beginners cycle
Thats what they call it with tren and Winstrol no test smh

Jayzgainz's picture

Why are you taking steroid advice from the person selling it to you? Of course they're going to try and sell you more than you need. They arent here to provide a public service they're here to make money. 2nd, if you did the research you say you did you wouldn't know to take a test only cycle your first time around. There are multiple reasons for this which you can research on this site. Unless I'm blind I don't see anything in your post about using test. Are you only taking dianabol? What do you expect to feel?

Sounds like you didn't research shit.

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smarmydemocrat's picture

I am taking Test (500 every 4 days) and I am sick and tired of this judgmental crap that people like you seem to dole out on these threads--I wrote that I am a FIRST-TIME user--I never claimed to be an expert--and despite having done A LOT OF PRIOR RESEARCH, it is still possible that I may have missed something on my first time. Unlike you, I don't have prior experience to look back on for guidance. GOD FORBID someone should make a mistake on his very first try and ask for guidance--ie. the purpose of these forums--but INSTEAD, I get a harty helping of abuse because I have the temerity to NOT be perfect and ask for help. Rude, aggressive behavior like that are part of the reason that AASs get their reputation for causing out-of-control aggression and violence--Maybe instead of criticizing and telling people how inadequate they are, offering some helpful advice might be more constructive.

Jayzgainz's picture

Bro, Im the nicest person you'll ever meet, Im definitely not judgemental. Perhaps I came off that way but you posed a question, looking for a response. I gave mine. If I misinterpreted your meaning, all apologies. Wasnt trying to come off as rude. Take it with a grain of salt, I have no ill will towards you.
I'm pretty sure my response is not what gives aas a bad name. What gives it a bad reputation is people using excessive amounts of gear irresponsibly and having no idea what they are doing and harming themselves.

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Gettingbig's picture

This reply is not how you will get any help

Judgemental probably but you need help so ask and take what you get sort through it and research the advice

smarmydemocrat's picture

I am taking Test (250 mg per day) and I am sick and tired of this judgmental crap that people like you seem to dole out on these threads--I wrote that I am a FIRST-TIME user--I never claimed to be an expert--and despite having done A LOT OF PRIOR RESEARCH, it is still possible that I may have missed something on my first time. Unlike you, I don't have prior experience to look back on for guidance. GOD FORBID someone should make a mistake and ask for guidance--ie. the purpose of these forums--but INSTEAD, I get a harty helping of abuse because I have the temerity to NOT be perfect and ask for help. Rude, aggressive behavior like that are part of the reason that AASs get their reputation for causing out-of-control aggression and violence--Maybe instead of criticizing and telling people how inadequate they are, offering some helpful advice might be more constructive.

IrishMack's picture

I was not privy to this post or the abuse would have been harsh. You need to post your stats and post your goals. Lucky for you the above folks forgot to ask that before doling out advice. Get your shit straight too, you say 250 test a day then 500 then another thing. Post a pic as well with your face taken out. Do none of what I ask and you can just wait for others that forgot to ask to even write you a cycle as well, maybe even get you a meal plan and a training routine. Thumbs up!

Bill G's picture

250mg test a day? That's 1750mg a week. That seems a little much. You sure about that. And d_ball is fast but you shouldn't be "feeling" it at 9 days. Seems about after week two people experience some strenth gains.

smarmydemocrat's picture

Sorry, I corrected it--I meant to write I take 250 mg x 2 (500) every 4 days.

Bill G's picture

Ok good that makes a little more sense. What Ester is it cyp or enanth? How long you been running it?

helloBrooklyn's picture

Yes. Your source cares about you as much as your local politicians do.