See where vike yesterday told the vets to be hard on the young guys on the site 25 and under bro u are 24 if u can't take some criticism bout using steroids. U won't be here long http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/bulk-cycle-need-s...
This forum yesterday u just threw out advice to someone before knowing any info or legwork and the last thing he needed was steroids maybe u need to slow your roll
Yaa I know the policy about the under 25 man I'm not debating it at all and its a good policy. Its just that this dude has nothing other to say on any thread other then what he said to me. Im 8 days away from being 25. So it wasn't perfect to start when i was 23.5 but thats life. I wanted to jump on at 21 and was talked out of it buy guys on another forum and told to wait till I'm 23, which i did. When I finally became active on eroids back in march or whenever it was i was 24 and 9 months and didnt know about there 25 policy. So three months away from the acceptable age. So I appreciate the concern from everyone I really do but this guys just a douche bag about it.
And regarding the post yesterday, the guys age, height weight and cycle history was there, and I told him to drop everything but the test, and if he doesn't wanna do that atleast drop the 19-nor, and lower his dose of test. Thats the basic info were told to ask for before giving out any advice. But your right, the status of his current test levels and blood work is definitely something i will be asking for in the future before giving out advice. But the rule is stats, cycle history. So your right i will slow down.
Im not here to fight with anyone, Im hear to learn as much as possible and help others. I don't want bad blood with anyone including flash.
All good man just saying us giving out advice that can alter people lives is serious business. A lot of time people are in to big a hurry to help just slow down most times u need more info than just basic stats to really help.be prepared for some constructive criticism for your age. Just take in stride learn. Glad u have a level head fr sent bro
you hate my guts bro, lots do, because i speak my mind, im honest and dont hold back, please dont question my integrity, go check my track mate, im cool if you are send fr all good.
I think people dont like you not because you speak your mind but becuase you dont have nothing worth a shit to say. I sure the fuck dont like you either, you got a problem we dont need here. If I was still MODding you be gone right now.
Bro you have a solid build. You and I are close to the same age. Why are your test doses so high? We, being mid 20's shouldn't rely so much on the drug, but rely more on our youth. The intensity in our training regimes, our ability to heal faster than the older guys(sorry boys). To us the term "less is more" applies in big ways.
If your using more than 1 compound I don't see the need of going over 400mg of test or anything EW. If your running JUST test ok 5-600 MAX. BUT With low doses, high intensity, and spot on diets, theres no reason why you shouldn't achieve any goal you set out for yourself. I only say this because the less you do now, the less you have to worry about any side effects (if any) that show up later on in life.
In saying that, clearly whatever your doing is working for you and my hat goes off to you. You have a great build. Fantastic actually. Id just like to see you do it in the safest way possible.
That's just my opinion man, don't take no offense. Keep up the hard work bother!
Honestly my theorys and beliefs of what to use has changed alot since this post. I will be using only test, dbol, and var for however long I decided to use steroids. In my opinion thats all I need, and most other people need to reach our goals. Go look At all my reply to people's questions. All I preach is diet diet diet. I try to get people to only using the basic compounds like test as I believe with a good diet that's all we need.
Regarding the dose of test. When using something like deca you must run the test at a much higher level then the deca in order to avoid undesirable side effects. Atleast for most people, some can get away with running them at the same dose, so therefore when using deca at 400mgs 600mgs of test is the minnium amount of test you should be using if you want your dick to work. Now like i said were all different, and some people don't need to do this, but this is the accepted way of doing things when running nanadrolone.
X2. It blows my mind that this guys was able to get almost 300 karma by going around telling people there retarted and stop doing what there doing. I'm yet to see one post that shows this guy has atleast some knowledge regarding anabolic steroids.
Dude your almost 30 years old and this is how hour acting? I was gonna go off on you but I'll be the mature adult and let you have your fun. And my milk thistle?" milk thistle is clinically tried, proven and tested". That was your post yesterday regarding how it "worked wonders". Just take it like a man, your advice was shit. It happens bro. You have failed time and time again to add anything constructive to any of my questions so from now on stay of my posts. There's 1000s of other knowledgeable members here who actually add to the discussion. I don't need your wothless posts taking up space.
And regarding 19-Nors. Neither of us have any business using them. I've changed my thinking regarding steroid cycles and if your not competing, or at least trying to be a total freak, there's no reason for anything other then test and a little dbol and anavar. I got friends who are natural who are bigger then you man, stick to just test.
Boldenone as a compound produces a slow, consistent gain in lean tissue by its very nature irrespective of what ester is attached to it. The undecylenate ester has a halflife of around 14 days. The cypionate ester has a half life of around 12 days. But, I have been looking for the definitive reference standard for steroid ester half-lives for years and have yet to find it. Seems like even the medical community can't agree. Opinions vary. My point is the running Boldenone X for 10 weeks is not gonna give you the full effect of the compound. IMHO. No point in recommending a dosage.
For ME, Nandrolone is by far the better mass builder despite a little bloat and the 19-nor sides. Boldenone is IMHO a kinder gentler compound but it is not without its own sides - it has a tendency to increase red blood cell count and in some cases jack your blood pressure as well.
Now, I am absolutely not trying to be an ass here, but bro, look through the cycle logs on ideas for bulkers, If there is something that strikes your fancy, post and we can all discuss. If someone wants to do a concierge cycle design for you, by all means . . . I've been down that route before and it''s too much trouble for ME. Only speaking for myself here.
Appriciate the info bro . And I'm definitely not looking for someone to spoon feed me info to create a cycle. I'm just looking for personal experience on using these compounds which you gave me. So based off the info you provided me with, the ester attached to bold doesn't matter, and it needs to be run for a long period of time regardless. So I think I'm either gonna run the test p npp again or maybe even just test p with a superdrol kicker. Thanks bro.
You are pretty young, but it is your decision to use anything and you are in control of your body. So you basically want to run the same cycle as your last one, but switch the Test E for Test Prop, with the exception of a few ancillaries? I believe that similar esters should be used together, so your new cycle is better than the old one, because using Test Prop or Test Phenylprop would be a better match for the NPP. Your pinning schedule would be a lot easier, because it would require pinning your compounds EOD. I like that a lot better than running one EOD and the other twice a week. Also, have you tried Prami before? I know it can make some ill, so you might want to switch to Caber if it causes problems. I would maybe switch the Aromasin for Adex, if you don't need a strong AI after you drop the Superdrol, even though it doesn't aromatize, but it is good to have both on hand. Remember you want some estrogen and not eliminate it completely, you need it to grow. How do you plan on using your HCG? When I ran my Test P/NPP cycle, I used it the last few weeks of my cycle and into PCT. I know others like to run it during their whole cycle, so that's why I ask. Plus I dropped the NPP and continued the Test a few weeks out, so that would clear my system, before the start of my PCT. I don't think it was as traumatic for me, when I came off of just Test and then started my PCT process. Do you plan on using anything for liver support, Superdrol is toxic as shit?
Thanks man I appriciate you taking the time to respond. I agree using the short esters together would be better. It's annoying having to pin some times everyday for 3 days then skipping a day. It's gets confusing sometimes as opposed to eod with the short esters. I basically ran the same ancillaries with my other cycle. Aromasin between 6.25 ed or every other day depending on how I felt. I'm up on the air with how to run hcg. 16 week cycle I did a 10 day blast stoping 4 days before pct and this past cycle I started it mid cycle and ran it till the end a few days before pct. I'll probably run it 250 iu twice a week just to avoid atrophy so girls don't ask questions lol. the reason I choose aromasin instead of Adex is because of adex effects on lipids. Didn't want anything messing up my lipid profile especially while on superdrol. I think my sweet spot is 6.25mgs eod. Might cut that in half and run everyday due to the short half life. I've had prami on hand during my cycle but never needed to use it. I just keep estrogen in check and apparently that helps keep prolactin in check. I also ran b6 at 200mgs a day which has been showing to keep prolactin levels down. Reason i picked prami over caber is according to an online drug interaction checker caber interacts with this medication I take for migraines and prami did not so I didn't want any problems. And yes I did use liver protection and a variety of other support sups while on the superdrol. I used liv 52 and milk thistle extract and tons of water for liver. Then I used red yeast rice , coq10 and policonsanol (sp?) for cholesterol. I got bloods before the cycle and also befor I started the superdrol and I will be getting more blood work in about 4 weeks so will see how my supplements worked at keeping those things in check.
Any expletive with boldenone? If so how does it compare with nandrolone?
Thanks again for the detailed response bro.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/this-is-why-i-thrash-yo...
See where vike yesterday told the vets to be hard on the young guys on the site 25 and under bro u are 24 if u can't take some criticism bout using steroids. U won't be here long
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/bulk-cycle-need-s...
This forum yesterday u just threw out advice to someone before knowing any info or legwork and the last thing he needed was steroids maybe u need to slow your roll
+3
Yaa I know the policy about the under 25 man I'm not debating it at all and its a good policy. Its just that this dude has nothing other to say on any thread other then what he said to me. Im 8 days away from being 25. So it wasn't perfect to start when i was 23.5 but thats life. I wanted to jump on at 21 and was talked out of it buy guys on another forum and told to wait till I'm 23, which i did. When I finally became active on eroids back in march or whenever it was i was 24 and 9 months and didnt know about there 25 policy. So three months away from the acceptable age. So I appreciate the concern from everyone I really do but this guys just a douche bag about it.
And regarding the post yesterday, the guys age, height weight and cycle history was there, and I told him to drop everything but the test, and if he doesn't wanna do that atleast drop the 19-nor, and lower his dose of test. Thats the basic info were told to ask for before giving out any advice. But your right, the status of his current test levels and blood work is definitely something i will be asking for in the future before giving out advice. But the rule is stats, cycle history. So your right i will slow down.
Im not here to fight with anyone, Im hear to learn as much as possible and help others. I don't want bad blood with anyone including flash.
All good man just saying us giving out advice that can alter people lives is serious business. A lot of time people are in to big a hurry to help just slow down most times u need more info than just basic stats to really help.be prepared for some constructive criticism for your age. Just take in stride learn. Glad u have a level head fr sent bro
you hate my guts bro, lots do, because i speak my mind, im honest and dont hold back, please dont question my integrity, go check my track mate, im cool if you are send fr all good.
Still not playing well with others I see? You have used up all of my goodwill... Goodbye!
I think people dont like you not because you speak your mind but becuase you dont have nothing worth a shit to say. I sure the fuck dont like you either, you got a problem we dont need here. If I was still MODding you be gone right now.
I think we got off on the wrong foot. I'm not trying to argue or have problems with anyone on here. Fr sent. Wil talk in pm
I wish I could 1 up
Bro you have a solid build. You and I are close to the same age. Why are your test doses so high? We, being mid 20's shouldn't rely so much on the drug, but rely more on our youth. The intensity in our training regimes, our ability to heal faster than the older guys(sorry boys). To us the term "less is more" applies in big ways.
If your using more than 1 compound I don't see the need of going over 400mg of test or anything EW. If your running JUST test ok 5-600 MAX. BUT With low doses, high intensity, and spot on diets, theres no reason why you shouldn't achieve any goal you set out for yourself. I only say this because the less you do now, the less you have to worry about any side effects (if any) that show up later on in life.
In saying that, clearly whatever your doing is working for you and my hat goes off to you. You have a great build. Fantastic actually. Id just like to see you do it in the safest way possible.
That's just my opinion man, don't take no offense. Keep up the hard work bother!
I like it +3
Honestly my theorys and beliefs of what to use has changed alot since this post. I will be using only test, dbol, and var for however long I decided to use steroids. In my opinion thats all I need, and most other people need to reach our goals. Go look At all my reply to people's questions. All I preach is diet diet diet. I try to get people to only using the basic compounds like test as I believe with a good diet that's all we need.
Regarding the dose of test. When using something like deca you must run the test at a much higher level then the deca in order to avoid undesirable side effects. Atleast for most people, some can get away with running them at the same dose, so therefore when using deca at 400mgs 600mgs of test is the minnium amount of test you should be using if you want your dick to work. Now like i said were all different, and some people don't need to do this, but this is the accepted way of doing things when running nanadrolone.
too much for 24yo, glad you got your milk thistle though, it works wonders lol. no juice for you, especially 19 nors.
Seriously man, you don't have anything nice or constructive to say, keep it to yourself. Quite being a middle aged adolescent.
lol your unbanned yaaay lets see how long it takes you to put someone in the hospital this time.
ahahah ? what? I just joined up? lmao
X2. It blows my mind that this guys was able to get almost 300 karma by going around telling people there retarted and stop doing what there doing. I'm yet to see one post that shows this guy has atleast some knowledge regarding anabolic steroids.
Dude your almost 30 years old and this is how hour acting? I was gonna go off on you but I'll be the mature adult and let you have your fun. And my milk thistle?" milk thistle is clinically tried, proven and tested". That was your post yesterday regarding how it "worked wonders". Just take it like a man, your advice was shit. It happens bro. You have failed time and time again to add anything constructive to any of my questions so from now on stay of my posts. There's 1000s of other knowledgeable members here who actually add to the discussion. I don't need your wothless posts taking up space.
And regarding 19-Nors. Neither of us have any business using them. I've changed my thinking regarding steroid cycles and if your not competing, or at least trying to be a total freak, there's no reason for anything other then test and a little dbol and anavar. I got friends who are natural who are bigger then you man, stick to just test.
lol.
Quick comments:
Boldenone as a compound produces a slow, consistent gain in lean tissue by its very nature irrespective of what ester is attached to it. The undecylenate ester has a halflife of around 14 days. The cypionate ester has a half life of around 12 days. But, I have been looking for the definitive reference standard for steroid ester half-lives for years and have yet to find it. Seems like even the medical community can't agree. Opinions vary. My point is the running Boldenone X for 10 weeks is not gonna give you the full effect of the compound. IMHO. No point in recommending a dosage.
For ME, Nandrolone is by far the better mass builder despite a little bloat and the 19-nor sides. Boldenone is IMHO a kinder gentler compound but it is not without its own sides - it has a tendency to increase red blood cell count and in some cases jack your blood pressure as well.
Now, I am absolutely not trying to be an ass here, but bro, look through the cycle logs on ideas for bulkers, If there is something that strikes your fancy, post and we can all discuss. If someone wants to do a concierge cycle design for you, by all means . . . I've been down that route before and it''s too much trouble for ME. Only speaking for myself here.
I didn't even think to look through the cycle logs. I'm gonna do that now and see if anything catches my eye.
Appriciate the info bro . And I'm definitely not looking for someone to spoon feed me info to create a cycle. I'm just looking for personal experience on using these compounds which you gave me. So based off the info you provided me with, the ester attached to bold doesn't matter, and it needs to be run for a long period of time regardless. So I think I'm either gonna run the test p npp again or maybe even just test p with a superdrol kicker. Thanks bro.
You can even put up your proposed cycle in the cycle log section for comment. There are some folk with lots of experience that will review your cycle.
You are pretty young, but it is your decision to use anything and you are in control of your body. So you basically want to run the same cycle as your last one, but switch the Test E for Test Prop, with the exception of a few ancillaries? I believe that similar esters should be used together, so your new cycle is better than the old one, because using Test Prop or Test Phenylprop would be a better match for the NPP. Your pinning schedule would be a lot easier, because it would require pinning your compounds EOD. I like that a lot better than running one EOD and the other twice a week. Also, have you tried Prami before? I know it can make some ill, so you might want to switch to Caber if it causes problems. I would maybe switch the Aromasin for Adex, if you don't need a strong AI after you drop the Superdrol, even though it doesn't aromatize, but it is good to have both on hand. Remember you want some estrogen and not eliminate it completely, you need it to grow. How do you plan on using your HCG? When I ran my Test P/NPP cycle, I used it the last few weeks of my cycle and into PCT. I know others like to run it during their whole cycle, so that's why I ask. Plus I dropped the NPP and continued the Test a few weeks out, so that would clear my system, before the start of my PCT. I don't think it was as traumatic for me, when I came off of just Test and then started my PCT process. Do you plan on using anything for liver support, Superdrol is toxic as shit?
Thanks man I appriciate you taking the time to respond. I agree using the short esters together would be better. It's annoying having to pin some times everyday for 3 days then skipping a day. It's gets confusing sometimes as opposed to eod with the short esters. I basically ran the same ancillaries with my other cycle. Aromasin between 6.25 ed or every other day depending on how I felt. I'm up on the air with how to run hcg. 16 week cycle I did a 10 day blast stoping 4 days before pct and this past cycle I started it mid cycle and ran it till the end a few days before pct. I'll probably run it 250 iu twice a week just to avoid atrophy so girls don't ask questions lol. the reason I choose aromasin instead of Adex is because of adex effects on lipids. Didn't want anything messing up my lipid profile especially while on superdrol. I think my sweet spot is 6.25mgs eod. Might cut that in half and run everyday due to the short half life. I've had prami on hand during my cycle but never needed to use it. I just keep estrogen in check and apparently that helps keep prolactin in check. I also ran b6 at 200mgs a day which has been showing to keep prolactin levels down. Reason i picked prami over caber is according to an online drug interaction checker caber interacts with this medication I take for migraines and prami did not so I didn't want any problems. And yes I did use liver protection and a variety of other support sups while on the superdrol. I used liv 52 and milk thistle extract and tons of water for liver. Then I used red yeast rice , coq10 and policonsanol (sp?) for cholesterol. I got bloods before the cycle and also befor I started the superdrol and I will be getting more blood work in about 4 weeks so will see how my supplements worked at keeping those things in check.
Any expletive with boldenone? If so how does it compare with nandrolone?
Thanks again for the detailed response bro.