Randam Luck's picture
Randam Luck
  • 4
2001

How do you feel about high dosing tren?

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So I've run many cycles over the past 7 years and in the last 4 cycles started running my Tren E around 700mg. I feel at higher doses it makes a huge difference , only side I have a hard time handling is the extreme insomnia. With all the long term effects on our body's do you guys think it's a mistake at these higher doses?

Troymcdowell11's picture

This is my PERSONAL tren guide. Tren e I use at around 1000 a week. Tren a 600 a week. Tren hex 400 a week. Always works well for me and no major sides. Tbh I'd do more if it wasn't for the price. That's just me everone is different but I hope this helps!

Troymcdowell11's picture

Sorry I'm new to posting in forums don't really understand what you meant

Troymcdowell11's picture

What about the stats?

Troymcdowell11's picture

I agree. I was simply just giving him my opinion. I really don't think 700 is too high. I was stating my personal experience. I though the food aspect was common sense. Everyone knows you've got to eat to grow. But with a good diet, that is a fine dose and Def not too high

Troymcdowell11's picture

Rustyhooker how do you know his diet isn't already phenomenal?

Dickkhead's picture

Tren can be rough on your organs bro. So, in my mind, the issue gets down to what you are trying to accomplish. If you are a bodybuilder, for example, with a long competition history and you are moving up in the sport and you have a burning passion to take yourself as far as you can go, naturally, you will take more risks. Even then, I'm not saying bodybuilding is worth dying for and it's justified.

If your a fitness model and you make your living with your physique, again, more risks are expected. But, maybe a change in career is a better move.

Lastly, though, if your in the gym and you just want to "look good" and you simply like the effects of Tren, I don't think cranking up the dose is a great idea. There are simply too many other steroid compounds and diet regimes to use that will dial in the look you want without rotting out your body. If you really want the truth, run it high and mid cycle go get a blood test. If you don't know what tests to order, I and others can certainly tell you.

Then sit down and look at it. Look at your liver, your kidneys, risk factors for coronary artery disease etc. etc. and then ask yourself if running Tren high is what you want. Staring at a print out of what Tren is doing to your body will eliminate the speculation and the opinions you will get in response to this post. You will have in front of you the reality of it. The reality for you. Everyone reacts differently to drugs. All that matters here is what effect Tren is having on YOU. The side effects you "feel" don't really tell you much and that goes for any steroid. Steroids do their internal damage silently when they do damage.

SlowBro's picture

i am 6 weeks out from a bodybuilding show and 300mg/week of tren is doing just fine with me. i personally dont go over 300mg/week with tren. this is my sweet spot. great results and minimal sides. i have run even less than that, 150mg/week and had GREAT results.

with your stats, especially if your trying to add size, your better off focusing on diet. i know you wrote that you eat 6000 calories daily, but really be honest with yourself, sit down and count. a lot of guys think they are eating tons and when they actually count it up they are lucky to be getting 3500 cals in. when you start taking nutrition are seriously as you take steroids and training, the results will come brother. i dont say this to put you down, years ago someone had me do the same thing. and sure enough i was not eating NEARLY as much as i thought i was. ive been getting bigger ever since. measure your food for 1 day and write it all down and add it up.

tren is also not the best bulking compound in my opinion. i end up flattening out quickly on tren, pre contest this is ok. but off season too much tren seems to deplete me.

Randam Luck's picture

Maybe your right I should probably review my diet and make some changes, it couldn't hurt. Thanks for the feed back bro. Good luck with the competition my friend.

SlowBro's picture

yeah brother, diet and training will always be most important. steroids help, but if you dont provide the body with what it needs to grow, all the gear in the world wont add tissue. at this point in the game for me, if im not making gains in the offseason, its related to my diet or training. off season is fairly simple for me in terms of cycles. its the day in and day out feeding of the machine that i have to stay on top of, make sure my digestion is 100%, not make excuses to skip meals, or make sure im not dragging my ass in the gym. when i started approaching my growth this way, i really began to see improvements.

also people will have sticking points. for me it was around 230lbs. the amount of food it took to get from 230-240, was an ENORMOUS amount of food more than it took to get from 220-230. i kept thinking whats wrong? is it my gear? but my coach kept telling me eat more. once i was able to get past that really hard sticking point i was able to keep the momentum and eventually push to 250. to put down that much food i had to focus alot on digestion (in my opinion the most over looked topic in bodybuilding). you arnt what you eat brother, you are what you can digest. i had to cut a lot of foods i really liked and drop cheat meals for a period of time to really hone in and get my digestion 100% so i could push the food HARD. once my digestion was good to go, putting the extra food down wasnt as hard.

i hope you take to heart some of this and really are able to push past your sticking point and grow brother.

robb's picture

The highest I've ran it was 70mg a day. This was tren ace, had to drop it to 50mg due to the mental side effects. I was way beyond pissed pretty much permanently, some of the thought's i had were scaring myself lol.

I handle tren enanthate much better, non of the usual head fuck and the gains are better for some reason, I'm not against ace and have used it since but the enanthate ester is a better ride for me.

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Tren seems to be the only drug I've used that doesn't come with diminishing returns. I'm sure there are some up close to 2g/week. But even passing a gram/week. Results kept coming and I got freakier and freakier. But the trade off is destroyed lipids, insomnia like a mf, and thyroid is impacted so I had to supplement in t3. Other than that, the higher tren goes the crazier it gets but it's not recommended and isn't for the faint hearted

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Randam Luck's picture

I agree it takes some heart to push thru the insomnia at times that shit is a mofo. Damn 2g is a monster amount I couldn't imagine how bad the sides could get HOLY SHIT....

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

usuallly, if you get bad sides from any drug, most likely youll see bad sides regardless of dose, within reasonable perimeters, imo. just the severity will increase as dose does. but if you can handle tren at 100mg/day very reasonably with minimal sides. id imagine 200mg or even 300mg/day isnt that much more of a hassle. only the few negatives will be more amplified but so will the positives. certain AAS drugs, ime. are pass/fail type instances. i either get on well with them at any dose or i dont.

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Randam Luck's picture

Bean pole huh? I was just trying to get peoples experience with tren not get blasted buy an experienced vet on the site. Seems counter productive, thought we are all here to learn and gain experience from the collective. But to each their own I appreciate your feedback anyway big guy.

srx5000's picture

Just make sure you have some long periods off steroids completely.

Randam Luck's picture

Yeah wish I could stay on full time but take equal time off as on somtimes going a couple more months off do to finances.

Randam Luck's picture

Let me give a little back round. I was 119 around 6 - 7 years ago, skin and bones runs in the family nothing I did would help me gain weight. I started training and still nothin. A buddy of mine brought me to the dark side after my fustration but I was only doing 250 Test E once a week on and off for few years and still only put on maybe 10 to 15lbs if I remember right. I was just to scared of horror stories. Over the years educated myself as much as possible about diffrent cycles and did the whole Deca, dbol abd Test thing which worked but I looked like a balloon from tons a water weight. Long story short blah blah got on Tren and BAM big and lean and now I use it every cycle. I'm worried that I might be killing myself in the long run with all the horror stories the Old Vets in the gym have been telling me.

Randam Luck's picture

Diet is not the greatest but consistant. I consume 6000 cals a day broken up into 6 meals. I only buy a few things and keep it simple. Beef patties with brown rice and 1lb potatoe substituting the beef with chicken breast thru out the day . The bad is I also drink 4 ensures thru out the day in between meals which I know isn't to healthy but I don't have a problem with getting fat since I'm a super hard gainer. I actually enjoy these meals since I have a really plain pallet. I was adding a can of tuna with each ensure for the extra protein but thats the one thing over the years I just can't stomach anymore, the site of it at this point makes me wanna yak.

Randam Luck's picture

500lbs hahaha I honestly don't think I could ever get big enough but 230 would be nice. I'm a super hard gainer was only around 160 3 years ago. It took me that long to get to this weight and keep it when off cycle. Most I've been is 215...

Randam Luck's picture

Very true I'm starting to notice the gains are starting to get less each time. Not sure if I should risk raising mg at this point. The whole risk vs reward thing . But its just such a damn game changer lol