posted Tue, 01/01/2013 - 22:00
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How do I incorporate hcg into a prop taper? *RESOLVED* Thanks Dossier & Zewi =]
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The next cycle I'm planning for some of my bros, goes as follows:
Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Test P 107mg EOD 1-4, 13-16
Mast P 114mg EOD 7-16
HCG weeks 7-16 Mon/Thur @ 250iu
Their PCT regimen:
Aromasin 12.5EoD on cycle all the way through pct then at the last two weeks of pct lower to 6.25mgEoD
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/prop-kickertaper-test-e-mast-plenty-of-...
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zewiYour hcg dose is to high you dont need 750iu a week.HCG converts to estor.. You cycle is smalll and not really heavy at all. Change that to 250iu to 500iu a wee max.
And yes test p and hcg stop the same day. You need to have atleast 2-3 days off of HCG before you start your PCT.
You dont need a 10 day blast of HCG.. what the fuck for???? IF you are taking HCG on cycle you do not need to do a BLAST..
Please go read about HCG there are plenty of post about this.
O and your cycle sucks.. it should be like this...
1-4 TEst P @ 150mg(or 100mg) EOD
1-12 Test E @ 500mg a week split
13-16 Test P @ 150mg (or 100mg) EOD
9-16 Mast p @ 100mg EOD
hahah well thanks for the constructive criticism, im just learning afterall.. but by the time im ready for new compounds i'll be completely ready >:] I'll change the cycle again, because before I didnt plan for them to use a prop taper, only as a kickstarter... thats why the MAST was from 5-12.
But my reasoning for the HCG blast was because before, when I found out about eroids... I was looking at steroid.com and that mod recommended a 10day blast @ 350iu =/
zewiAll good brother. Just trying to point out im always here to help. And yes Constructive criticism..
There is alot on HCG. but the biggest thing to understand is it converts to estro and a GOOD AI is a must. On light cycles you dont need as much, longer harder cycles yes you will be in that 500-1000 iu a week. Blast are usally done at the end of a cycle because, someone didn't run it on cycle. However, most people dont run HCG. on cycles like yours. But there is nothing wrong with that.
Again start with 250iu a week. and if you feel that you need 500iu that go to 500iu. But no your body. Don't go to 500iu cause your scared, that could leed to other issues. if you have to much estor floating around.
Also +1 to you for attitude.
Alright, I made the adjustments to the cycle... would you mind taking one last peek at it please =]
zewilooks much better.
Anonyou need to bump up that prop dose to at least 100mg/eod. you can go ed if you like, but the ester will allow for a release into the blood for 48 hrs. essentially, you're pinning yourself twice as much as what's needed. entirely up to you tho.
hcg may not be needed here. this is not a lengthy cycle and you're only fooling with one compound and two esters. if you still want to run it, you should start around week 6 and run until the week of last prop pin. otherwise, what's the point?
where is your ai during cycle? masteron should not be viewed as an alternative, even tho it exhibits some ai properties. a lower dose of ai may be necessary, but it still needs to be incorporated. especially, since you're running hcg. hcg will raise e2 levels.
ABANDON THIS IDEA
TIME ON + PCT = TIME OFF
you don't need to run hcg again just for the hell of it. it's not gonna benefit you much, especially with a short ester cycle. what's your age, stats, and cycle history?
Thanks for your suggestions sir. Well they are going to aromasin all the way thru cycle, I stated that above heh =] and they are going to run Prop at 53.5mg EVERYDAY so thats actually more than the 100mg EoD =>
But as for the hcg goes, I will change the cycle and incorporate the hcg starting at week 6 til the last shot of prop!
The cycle isn't for me, rather my cousin and my brother Ages: 32/25, both are around 5'7", weighing 185/215 and around 11%/14%. This is their 3rd cycle. they have only used Test E and Dbol up to this point.
I am just doing all the research cause I enjoy reading about it and would like to know as much as possible before one day I start adding compounds. Personally I am 21, 5'7", 11% weighing 157pounds. I am about to start my second cycle of test E in a couple of months. The first one was a short 8 week one because I got fake gear :[
But anyways thanks bro, I will change up the cycle log; please check it out when you have time!
Anonprop is in/out in 48 hours. by 24hrs post injection, levels begin to drop. so, in reality, your 53.5mg will not do much for raising the blood levels sifnificantly to reap the benefits of a kicker or taper, because the short half life does not allow for much compounding. you need to go higher, or you're wasting your money.
aww =/ damnit...well thanks alot bro =P I'm glad a vet couple point my family nd I in the right direction!
Anonzewi has the perfect outline for you guys above. you should listen to him